HELP with ef 24-70L!!!

what happened to the op? I thought he/she was posting pictures.....

hehehehe, see...A bad Canon L is user error, a bad third party lens is manufacturer error. :lol

CIDER wrote in post #1997748
...but you also have to agree the 24-70 seems to be the most plagued lens in canons range, i know a few people with it who love it and produce amazing shots but i also know a few people personally and alot on here who have issues with it.

I just put down an order for a 24-70mm 2.8L.
This is the first time I've heard of an issue (this whole time I always thought is was operator error or possibly new model camera body issues).

All I know about this lens is the good...

-D

Yea this lens is a DOG ! Just used it today on this pic.

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Mr. Clean wrote in post #2004642
hehehehe, see...A bad Canon L is user error, a bad third party lens is manufacturer error. :lol

In fact you are not kidding. People are sometimes reluctant to post pictures for fear of being lectured on fundamental photography techniques and such.
As an example, right now there is member here who has some serious reservations about his Ef 300 f/2.8 IQ. However, the person is not posting ......I guess he has a concern about suffering a reflexive backlash from big white worshippers.

Id say if your having troulbes with it still, give it to someone else for a day and see what they say. If they came up with the same resullts then maybe it is a lens problem. But as people said, it most commonly comes down to user error.

I think it's all in the eye of the beholder. If you are going to keep the lens you should be totally happy with it. Set it up on a tripod and take some real test shots. For some it's sharp enough and for others its not. And since it's a zoom, expect it not to be as sharp...with the tradeoff being the versatility of a zoom. Some professionals for the type of work they shoot may weigh the versatility higher than sharpness while others will value sharpness higher on the scale than versatility.

IMHO, morehtml's picture at 100% isn't sharp enough for me whereas the non-crop looks very sharp...I doubt someone will be blowing up the dog portrait to 100%...and if they were, you would probably go with a prime or large format (non-35mm) camera not the 24-70....it depends on your application.

lensview wrote in post #2005242
In fact you are not kidding. People are sometimes reluctant to post pictures for fear of being lectured on fundamental photography techniques and such.
As an example, right now there is member here who has some serious reservations about his Ef 300 f/2.8 IQ. However, the person is not posting ......I guess he has a concern about suffering a reflexive backlash from big white worshippers.

Could be, or could be someone that took poor images and bought an expensive lens feeling that better equipment will mage better photos. Some of the L's like the 24-70 f/2.8L are VERY heavy compared to the kit lens and take some getting used to. If you have poor technique it is amplified.

And also, just think to yourself when are you going to use your shots at 100%? Peeping is the enemy!

A01 wrote in post #2006443
And also, just think to yourself when are you going to use your shots at 100%? Peeping is the enemy!

if you frequently print large A3+ then you want as much quality as you can

It is likely that it might just need to be calibrated. Not sure where the OP is as they are not sharing, but in the US I have sent lenses to the Irvine service center and had them back in 7-10 days. Great service and it is free. A lens that needs to be calibrated will give unsatisfactory results.

Any lens can have issues. It really is a stretch to say it is the most plagued. Have you forgotten the 24-105? And is it the 100-300 right now that is in the middle of an issue?

CIDER wrote in post #1997748
i agree ronald but you also have to agree the 24-70 seems to be the most plagued lens in canons range, i know a few people with it who love it and produce amazing shots but i also know a few people personally and alot on here who have issues with it.

I love my 24-70 - it would be on my camera approx 75% of the time - the only sharpness issues I have are with my skill level.

Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #1997758
User error is the only issue. I've never seen one have to be sent to Canon because it's screwed up. Some need to be calibrated to attain optimum results, but that's the case with most any lens. Plagued? Hardly. 24-105L for flare, 70-300IS for portrait softness, DO lenses for their onion effect, and many others. Never heard of a common problem with the 24-70L.

Remember, too, that most people, especially beginners, aren't going to magically take the lens out of the box and instantly take magnificent shots with it. You have to practice and learn the lens.

1) User error is the only issue?

2) Remember, too, that most people, especially beginners, aren't going to
magically take the lens out of the box and instantly take magnificent shots
with it. You have to practice and learn the lens.

No offence but how do you explain the fact that when I took the 24-105 out of
the box it was performing like it shoot be? Right away from the first time I
used it?

And that peace of junk that I spend a lot of money on did not? Not at first,
not at second and not ever? I sold it and thank God that the 24-105 came out.
I never again buy a 24-70 from Canon. If it was the last "lens" Canon has I
would go to Nikon or another brand. IMO this is the worst lens from Canon that
someone possible can spend his money on.

How do you explain that the 70-200 2.8 IS performs unbelieveble good right out of the box?

But hey, if others love it then I'm happy for them.
But let's not say that this lens has no issue's.

And maybe after 45 years of photography I still have to learn using a lens.
I think it's time that someone starts another thread or better a sticky on what
we (not pro) users can and/or should do to learn and use a new lens.

Anayway good luck to all of us when buying new lenses.

Salleke wrote in post #2007274
1)
And maybe after 45 years of photography I still have to learn using a lens.
I think it's time that someone starts another thread or better a sticky on what
we (not pro) users can and/or should do to learn and use a new lens.

I sympathize with your point. I'll tell you what I've had to learn when trying to use new lenses:
(1) A very fast lens such as f/1.4 or, especially f/1.2......got to take extra care in focusing right @ wide open.
(2) Telephotos....how to minimize the shake when handholding.
(3) IS lenses.....how low can I go with shutter speed.

No magic, no black art, all simple and commonly done.

As far as the 24-70 is concerned, no doubt there has been a curious flurry of soft copy reports on the net. Mine is very sharp and good....in fact as simple to use as eating a pie.

Recently, here in the forum, people have vented and several people have jumped on them. When I got my copy of the 24-70 I posted a few shots so people could see what I was complaining about and I really got some good advice, including some that are echoed here. I sent my lens to Canon and it was sent back, and I vowed I'd work with it until I felt it was going to work for me. If I didn't feel the lens was up to the task of taking sharp pictures worth $1100 for a lens, I would simply return it and get something else until I did get something that worked well. So, I think next time someone wants to rant about their expensive lens that isn't performing, should think about posting a picture of what you are complaining about. Otherwise, no one can really help. JMO.