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B + W 77mm UV Slim Mount ...Worth it?

 
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Sep 27, 2006 15:34 |  #1

B + W 77mm UV Slim Mount...
Is it worth it to get the slim mount or stick with the standard?

Can you even put a lens cap on the slim mount?

Are these the same as the 'f-pro standard' I've heard about?


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Sep 27, 2006 15:40 |  #2

Many reports Canon 10-22 does not cause vigneting when a non-slim filter is used. So I would stick with the standard in order to be able to use the lens cap still.


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Sep 27, 2006 17:35 as a reply to  @ Luckie8's post |  #3

I use Hoya Pro-1 slim filters because they have a front thread that allows you to stack (maybe), and you can use your lens cap.

B+W gives you a plastic lens cap, but it falls off easily, it is irreplaceable, and you still have to deal with the normal cap (in your pocket, bag, wherever).

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Sep 27, 2006 17:44 |  #4

CoolToolGuy wrote in post #2045844 (external link)
B+W gives you a plastic lens cap, but it falls off easily, it is irreplaceable, and you still have to deal with the normal cap (in your pocket, bag, wherever).

I didn't get a plastic cap with my 77mm B+W MRC UV filter...
Where did you get yours with a plastic lens cap?


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Sep 27, 2006 17:48 |  #5

Standard Canon lens cap won't work with slim...no vigneting with a 1.6 crop camera...I'd get slim if I had a 5d or 1ds...


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Sep 27, 2006 20:33 |  #6

Luckie8 wrote in post #2045867 (external link)
I didn't get a plastic cap with my 77mm B+W MRC UV filter...
Where did you get yours with a plastic lens cap?

Well it was a circular polarizer, not a UV - I thought they all came with a cap.

B&H lists it under "Item Includes" on this one:

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

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Sep 28, 2006 06:50 |  #7

I'ld say it depends on the type of lens cap. I just recieved a B+W 72mm CP MRC filter, and it allows the use of the hood on my 20-35L and 80-200L (fits on the outside of the lens body) just fine. I'ld assume the slim version would as well...
The hood on my 50/1.4 won't fit however with the filter and step-up ring attached :rolleyes:


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Sep 28, 2006 14:43 |  #8

englishw wrote in post #2045880 (external link)
Standard Canon lens cap won't work with slim...no vigneting with a 1.6 crop camera...I'd get slim if I had a 5d or 1ds...


good question as I'm using the 5D!

- as I am just about to get B+Ws, I'd appreciate advice on these intended purchases:

58mm one CP +2 UVs *normal* for 50mm1.4+85mm1.8
72mm UV+ CP for 35mm1.4 (*slim* or normal?)
77mm for 17-40L UV+CP (*slims*?)

I don't mind if the CP filters don't work with the canon lens cap but don't want them if the UV's wont work with the lens cap

Id rather not stack -i.e. take the UV off before using the CP on the WAs if it meant not being able to use an UV that would take a lens cap


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Sep 30, 2006 07:51 |  #9

I'ld skip the UV filters, but that's me...
I'ld buy a 72mm filter and a step up ring 58-72mm. Way cheaper solution then getting two CP filters. I bought the same step up ring with my 72 mm B+W MRC CP. Now I can fit it to my 28/1.8, 50/1.4 and 100/2.0. Saved about 100 euro's...
You might even consider just buying the 77mm filter for your 17-40L and getting two step up rings.


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Sep 30, 2006 12:35 |  #10

René Damkot wrote in post #2056837 (external link)
I'ld skip the UV filters, but that's me...
I'ld buy a 72mm filter and a step up ring 58-72mm. Way cheaper solution then getting two CP filters. I bought the same step up ring with my 72 mm B+W MRC CP. Now I can fit it to my 28/1.8, 50/1.4 and 100/2.0. Saved about 100 euro's...
You might even consider just buying the 77mm filter for your 17-40L and getting two step up rings.

thanks - IM ok wit gettign different sizes CP for each lens size - can't be doing with fiddly step-ups

but my question was really about the potential for vignetting and/or the viability of continuing to use the canon lens cap with the slim filters


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Sep 30, 2006 12:38 |  #11

The Canon lens cap will fit the Hoya Pro series slim type filters.




  
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Sep 30, 2006 13:06 |  #12

Bluedog_XT wrote in post #2057685 (external link)
The Canon lens cap will fit the Hoya Pro series slim type filters.

Thanks - however it was the B+W filters I was thinking of getting as the Hoyas ( I have several)are dreadful to clean , they just tend to smear instead


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Sep 30, 2006 13:14 |  #13

Simon King wrote in post #2057785 (external link)
Thanks - however it was the B+W filters I was thinking of getting as the Hoyas ( I have several)are dreadful to clean , they just tend to smear instead

I use the Eclipse cleaner and lens tissue paper, haven't had a problem keeping mine clean and I'm the type to hold the filter at various angles to bright lamps looking for smears.




  
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Sep 30, 2006 13:37 |  #14

I ended up (accidentally) buying the slim fit B+W skylight filter that was optimized for wideangle lenses from Adorama. Can't say I've had any problems with vignetting.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but what is recommended as far as RGNDs and CPs go? I was thinking maybe a 3stop hard RGND and a CP. Is there a big difference between a GND and a RGND?

I was thinking of this - http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …EG&addedTroughT​ype=search (external link)

I would need the Cokin filter holder I suppose?


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Sep 30, 2006 15:34 |  #15

Bluedog_XT wrote in post #2057812 (external link)
I use the Eclipse cleaner and lens tissue paper, haven't had a problem keeping mine clean and I'm the type to hold the filter at various angles to bright lamps looking for smears.

thanks for that - I will look for the Eclipse cleaners - new to me:D

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