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Sep 27, 2006 22:09 |  #1

Pls critique these photos of Brittany...she was an absolute blast to work with. Thanks.

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Sep 27, 2006 22:52 |  #2

I like the first one...there is something about the second one that is throwing me off I cannot pin point it.


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Sep 27, 2006 23:10 |  #3

The first is really nice... the second one is something I've actually posted about in the lighting section. You've exposed her very nicely and the pose looks pretty sweet and nice. But the one thing that more or less destroys this image for me is the background is too hot. I know the look you were trying to go for. Blown background for that nice clean look, right? So many people make the mistake of using the ratio of 2 or even 3 stops over on the background. For instance, we'll keep it simple and not include the fill light. and hair and all that. For our purposes, we only have the main and background. if you have the camera set to F/8 and the main light is at f/8... good subject exposure is what we'll get regardless of the background lighting. Now, if you don't have any background light at this point, and your subject is 6-8 feet from the background as she should be for this type of shot... your background should be nice and gray... (ie... underexposed). Now lets add the background light. I see many people talk about using 2 stops or even 3 stops more light, but for our example, let's use 2. Ok so our exposure is set to F/8.. two stops above that is F/16. Our camera is set to F/8 but you need f/16 to expose the white background as white. Is this going to overexpose? You betcha! Problem is, while the background will be blown out..and give you that nice clean empty space look we want... it's also one big ginormous reflector. That light will bounce back on your subject, even at 6-8 feet away and cause what happened here. Subject edge errosion. You lost the detail of the edges which you can see in her hair, and in her left shirt sleeve. I don't know how many stops differential you have here... it could be only 1 stop over your main and she could be 3 feet away. But I do know that the background only needs to be overexposed by ½ stop at the most to get the effect you're looking for. Think about it... if your main light is at f/8, and your background light is at say... F/9ish... wouldn't the background still be overexposed? It will I promise. And not only that... any reflected light from the background will have fallen off well below the F/8 you have your main light set to by the time it reaches the subject's back.

The results... no edge errosion, well exposed subject , and nice clean white background. Give that a shot and see if you find yourself taking better high key portraits. :)

Other than the background issue as I said... the photo is really good though.


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Sep 28, 2006 04:49 |  #4
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I only can see to one photo. What part of west Mich are you in?


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Sep 28, 2006 05:34 as a reply to  @ locky's post |  #5

Forkball, nice explanation! the first one is spot on, the second looks great except the light creeping out of the background and wrapping around. Great work, I look forward to seeing more


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Sep 28, 2006 07:56 |  #6

Forkball, thanks for all of that. I've already copy and pasted your recommendations and will be trying them out. High key is something that I've been struggling with.

Locky, I'm down in South Haven. However, I know Montague well as I grew up in Pentwater. Also, my nephew used to be a cop there in Montague and I grew up with your police chief.




  
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Sep 28, 2006 09:18 |  #7

jwilson wrote in post #2048375 (external link)
Forkball, thanks for all of that. I've already copy and pasted your recommendations and will be trying them out. High key is something that I've been struggling with.

Locky, I'm down in South Haven. However, I know Montague well as I grew up in Pentwater. Also, my nephew used to be a cop there in Montague and I grew up with your police chief.

Anytime... I'm here to help. You do have a light meter, right? If not... go get one. You don't have to break the bank for one either. The LS-308 is about $125-$150 and does just as good as any lightmeter for setting up strobes. Also, don't forget that if you are using two strobes to light the background, by measuring each one individually, it will skew the exposure since the light on the right side will contribute to the light on the left side and vise versa when added together. So if you are using F/8 for your main and your camera exposure, I think by going to f/8.5 on each of the two strobes individually, you should get your f/9 overall. I sometimes will only use one light and I'll feather it so the hot spot is out of frame. I do this so the hot spot won't be visible and my photo and it will light the background much more evenly.

Good luck and post your results.


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