Compared to f1.4, how much more light will f1.2 let in? Is it less than half a stop (.44)? I'm not sure if I am calculating this right...
RTMiller Goldmember 1,241 posts Likes: 5 Joined Dec 2004 Location: Delaware, USA More info | Sep 28, 2006 09:49 | #1 Compared to f1.4, how much more light will f1.2 let in? Is it less than half a stop (.44)? I'm not sure if I am calculating this right...
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In2Photos Cream of the Crop 19,813 posts Likes: 6 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Near Charlotte, NC. More info | Sep 28, 2006 09:52 | #2 It is one-half stop. Mike, The Keeper of the Archive
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SimonG Goldmember 1,007 posts Joined Jan 2006 Location: Kitchener, ON More info | Well, considering how all of the f-stops are rounded anyways, you can take f/1.2 to be both a half stop and a third stop faster than f/1.4. -- Michael (a.k.a. SimonG)
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Sep 28, 2006 10:18 | #4 SimonG wrote in post #2048741 Well, considering how all of the f-stops are rounded anyways, you can take f/1.2 to be both a half stop and a third stop faster than f/1.4. So I guess my .44 is accurate.
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runninmann what the heck do I know? More info | Sep 28, 2006 10:39 | #5 Square each. 1.2^2 = 1.44; 1.4^2 = 1.96. Subtract 1.96-1.44 = .52. Divide .52/1.44 = .36 or about 1/3 stop.
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davidfig we over look the simplest things 3,275 posts Likes: 85 Joined May 2005 Location: Fremont, California USA More info | Sep 28, 2006 10:42 | #6 The only difference between the 1.4 and 1.2 is prestige. 1/3 stop is not enough to make a difference, since you can adjust ISO. 5D | 17-40L | Tammy 28-75 2.8 | 28-135 | 50/1.8 | 85/1.8 | Sony A6000 2-Lens Kit | SEL35 1.8 | EF 50 1.8 on NEX as my 75mm 1.8
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,092 posts Likes: 48 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Sep 28, 2006 10:45 | #7 davidfig wrote in post #2048839 The only difference between the 1.4 and 1.2 is prestige. 1/3 stop is not enough to make a difference, since you can adjust ISO. Unless, of course, you're already at the limit and absolutely desperate for light.... Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Sep 28, 2006 10:55 | #8 Aperture range: 1.0; 1.1; 1.2; 1.4; 1.6; 1.8; 2.0; 2.2; 2.5; 2.8 etcetera. "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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SimonG Goldmember 1,007 posts Joined Jan 2006 Location: Kitchener, ON More info | Sep 28, 2006 12:04 | #9 runninmann wrote in post #2048826 Square each. 1.2^2 = 1.44; 1.4^2 = 1.96. Subtract 1.96-1.44 = .52. Divide .52/1.44 = .36 or about 1/3 stop. Sure, but like I said, there's a lot of rounding going on here that prevents your calculation from being 100% accurate (i.e. your idealized aperture value of 1.4 should really be √2, or 1.4142). As I said, it's impossible to know precisely how much faster a lens is in this range unless you know the actual diameter of the lens wide open... but it's somewhere in the range of 1/3 to 1/2 stop faster. -- Michael (a.k.a. SimonG)
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peterdoomen Goldmember 1,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Lier, Flanders (northern, flemish speaking part of Belgium) More info | Sep 28, 2006 12:05 | #10 I take a lot of shots @f/1.2. As you can see, in very low light situations like this, that 1/3d stop helps. Besides that, the 85L is a very sharp lens, according to the photodo test one of the sharpest. P. Canon EOS 20D | Canon 70-200 f2.8L IS + Hoya UV Filter | Canon Extender 1.4x | Canon 50 f/1.8 | Canon 85 f/1.2L mk II | Tamron 17-35 f/2.8-f/4| Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 | Tokina 100 f/2.8 macro | Kenko extension tubes | Canon Speedlite 420 EX & Sto-fen Omnibounce| 80GB Flashtrax | Manfrotto Tripod 190 pro B & Joystick 322RC2 | Lowepro Micro Trekker 200
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DanteKing "Cream of Corn" BurgerMeister 9,134 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: San Anselmo, California More info | Sep 28, 2006 12:47 | #11 cdi-ink.com wrote in post #2048854 Unless, of course, you're already at the limit and absolutely desperate for light.... ...or Dante. Ok, thats it bub! me and you, bike racks after school!! Dante
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,092 posts Likes: 48 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Sep 28, 2006 13:49 | #12 Dante King wrote in post #2049292 Ok, thats it bub! me and you, bike racks after school!! *Hides in his locker* Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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runninmann what the heck do I know? More info | Sep 28, 2006 15:30 | #13 SimonG wrote in post #2049148 Sure, but like I said, there's a lot of rounding going on here that prevents your calculation from being 100% accurate (i.e. your idealized aperture value of 1.4 should really be √2, or 1.4142). As I said, it's impossible to know precisely how much faster a lens is in this range unless you know the actual diameter of the lens wide open... but it's somewhere in the range of 1/3 to 1/2 stop faster. I don't disagree at all that liberal use of rounding is used in discussions of aperture values. That's why my answer was "about 1/3 stop". The purpose of showing the calculations was to assist others who might have a similar question about any 2 relative aperture values. You know..."Give a man a fish...."
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SimonG Goldmember 1,007 posts Joined Jan 2006 Location: Kitchener, ON More info | I wasn't picking on your method by any means. I was just pointing out that the result of any calculation can only be as good as the input values, and in this case, those are not particularly well defined due to the heavy amount of rounding that exists in these standard aperture values. -- Michael (a.k.a. SimonG)
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whiskaz Goldmember 1,503 posts Joined Apr 2006 Location: Parkersburg, WV More info | Sep 28, 2006 15:48 | #15 cdi-ink.com wrote in post #2048854 Unless, of course, you're already at the limit and absolutely desperate for light.... ...or Dante. You're a funny guy Jeremy | Gear List | EyeDigress - A Photoblog
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