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Request info on 135mm / F3.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Lenses Sonnar M42

 
ErXoN
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Sep 30, 2006 20:22 |  #1

hello,

could you tell me, what a difference is between 1st and 2nd lenses?
what a different between
1. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC S 1:3.5 f = 135]
and
2. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC Sonnar 3.5 / 135]
what a different between just S and Sonnar?




  
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Oct 01, 2006 02:46 |  #2

I'm pretty sure they are both the same lens. Condyk and Tiziano use MF primes a lot, hopefully they'll pick up on this thread and confirm for you.

The CZJ company changed logo's and designations a few times depending on production runs and politics of the day, while the lenses were pretty much the same regardless.


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Oct 01, 2006 07:19 |  #3

I believe our beloved Mr Condyk does have one - DAVE!!


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Oct 02, 2006 09:14 |  #4

who can tell: what a real price is now for this lens?
does it have separate blenda or mounted on the lens?
where can I buy this lens except ebay?

thanks a lot for an answers.




  
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Oct 02, 2006 09:27 |  #5

ErXoN wrote in post #2059217 (external link)
hello,

could you tell me, what a difference is between 1st and 2nd lenses?
what a different between
1. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC S 1:3.5 f = 135]
and
2. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC Sonnar 3.5 / 135]
what a different between just S and Sonnar?

both are the same lens, the S is just an abv for sonnar. first one is taken directly off the front of the lens, while the second is just a standard lazy man's description:rolleyes:

as for price, an actual zeiss might set you back between 1500 and 8k (used to new telephoto). hard to find that exact lens though


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Oct 02, 2006 09:50 |  #6

8k what, yens ? italian lira ?

M42s Sonnars are more popular than they were, but I'm sure you can find one around $50 or so... Check eBay.


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Oct 02, 2006 10:25 |  #7

50$? it would be nice...on ebay price is highered to 150$ :(

maybe somebody can offer me any good Carl Zeiss or any other M42 mount ultra wide lens? I've found 20mm/3.5 - is it possible to find something wider? coz 20 + crop - it became just wide :(




  
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Oct 02, 2006 10:35 |  #8

There are no cheap wide lens in manual glass. You are better off buying a recent zoom (Sigma 18-50 etc) you will get descent quality for a very reasonable price.
"good" manual wide angles for for a lot more than these modern lens.

Only cheap-ish (they are going up) wide angles are the russina fisheyes (Peleng & Zenitar)


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Oct 02, 2006 11:12 as a reply to  @ buze's post |  #9

Well the Zuiko 21mm f/3.5 can sometimes be had for roughly the same price as the Peleng fish-eye, although it is also rare enough that sometimes bidding resembles a feeding frenzy. Mine cost £180, but for some of us that isn't necessarily cheap.


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Oct 02, 2006 11:32 |  #10

ErXoN wrote in post #2059217 (external link)
hello,

could you tell me, what a difference is between 1st and 2nd lenses?
what a different between
1. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC S 1:3.5 f = 135]
and
2. Carl Zeiss Jena DDR [MC Sonnar 3.5 / 135]
what a different between just S and Sonnar?

You know that a Carl Zeiss Jena is not same as a Carl Zeiss T* (West Germany)? Big difference!

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Oct 02, 2006 12:21 |  #11

buze wrote in post #2065949 (external link)
There are no cheap wide lens in manual glass. You are better off buying a recent zoom (Sigma 18-50 etc) you will get descent quality for a very reasonable price.
"good" manual wide angles for for a lot more than these modern lens.

Only cheap-ish (they are going up) wide angles are the russina fisheyes (Peleng & Zenitar)

and what about this:
http://www.rugift.com …meras/lens-mc-mir-47m.htm (external link)

I heard saying it is good lens. do you think its cheapish?




  
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Oct 02, 2006 12:34 |  #12

The CZJ 135mm 3.5 is an amazing lens if you get a nice, mint one. Prices vary depend on bidding demand. I waited a long time to get mine mint and boxed and at the right price. It's probably my favourite lens. Not ultra sharp like the L's but somehow better to my eye and more natural. Wonderfully 'emotive' lens ... if a lens can be that! Also, awesome bokah.

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Oct 02, 2006 12:43 |  #13

I paid £20 for mine some time ago and disassembled it and cleaned it myself. Go check out any local camera shops that you have, it's not a rare lens but it is very nice particularly in colour and bokeh.


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Oct 02, 2006 12:57 |  #14

condyk wrote in post #2066430 (external link)
It's a wonderful piece of design in every way. I really like the 'foreskin style' hood too :lol: Works beautifully and makes a rich swishing noise as it extends and retracts.

ROFL

While you're not the classical "size obscessed" Freudian case, you're a very close deviant as evidenced by the associate thinking.

What do the usual hoods remind you of?
How about plastic rain covers?

I'll never be able to look at the sonnar with the same eyes again.

BTT: I don't think you'll be able to find a good wide angle in screwmount or as a manual focus lens. They're just too hard to design for SLRs.

I've picked up two lenses for 20 bucks each. 135/3.5 and 35/3.5 Both pentaxes.

They are very cool and small lenses.


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Oct 02, 2006 13:05 |  #15

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #2066544 (external link)
ROFL While you're not the classical "size obscessed" Freudian case, you're a very close deviant as evidenced by the associate thinking.

Ah, but it wasn't an unconscious outburst so I am off the hook young fella ;-)a

I must say tho' I had an instant familiarity with the much larger 300mm IS L first time I handled it :lol: :lol:


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