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Oct 06, 2006 05:24 |  #1

I have a 350D with 18-55, 28-105 and 70-200 (as listed below) have taken some nice shots with the kit lens but want something faster for indoors with nicer colours also to use as a main / walkabout lens. [SIZE=2]It would ideally be at least 18mm short and 50mm long. Thing is I really dont want to buy a compromise now and look to upgrade in a year or two . :confused:

My short list is

1st choice - £275 Tamron 17-50 f2.8 because its fast and seems quite sharp but how noisy is the AF?
2nd choice - £225 Sigma 17-70 bcause better zoom but slower and possibly not as sharp as Tamron?
3rd choice - £399 Canon 17-85 IS because excellent zoom range and IS, but is probably too slow for indoor shots.

[SIZE=2]EF 17-55 IS @£659 is too expensive:cry: . 17-40 too short. and 24-105 and 50 f1.4 not wide enough.

[SIZE=2]Or is anything due out soon, that I could add to the shortlist?:D


  
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Oct 06, 2006 05:25 |  #2

The 28-105 isn't so bad...so maybe you should look at an ultrawide instead of getting something to overlap with it so much. Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20, Tokina 12-24, etc. All three are good lenses with their strengths and weaknesses.

That's the route I would (and did) take anyway...


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Oct 06, 2006 06:56 |  #3

Its between Tamron or Sigma.
Canon 17-85 is only IS. optics are ordinary.
I think Tamron is better option because of constant aperture and less rage mean better quality probably.


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Oct 06, 2006 07:10 |  #4

Why is the 17-40mm too short? You have the 28-105mm... do you really want to overlap that range by that much? I think that you should go with the 17-40mm personally. That's what I'm replacing my kit lens with. But if you're really insistant on trying to duplicate the range of the kit... I think that the Tamron 17-50mm is probably the better choice. I have the 28-75mm Tamron which uses the same AF system and it's louder than the 28-105mm and I think it may even be slightly louder than the kit lens too. They're pretty close actually. It's really too close to tell though, but it is definately nowhere near as loud as my 75-300mm Tamron lens.


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Oct 06, 2006 07:38 as a reply to  @ JMHPhotography's post |  #5

hi Forkball,

Just wondering if you can compare and contrast the Tammy 28-75 2.8 and the Canon 28-105 3.5-4.5 USM.

I am kinda between on which one I should get.

I know the Tamron has the constant 2.8, which is only one stop more up to 75mm on the Canon. But shooting the Tamron at f4 is already stopped down so more sharp. The Canon has more reach and USM.

So I guess I'm asking more for more than just the obvious spec differneces.

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Oct 06, 2006 08:28 as a reply to  @ Bosman's post |  #6

I ideally want faster than f4 so that does away with most of the ultra wides and the 17-40.

I will be keeping the 28-105 and using it outdoors, when low light is not an issue I dont see the overlap making this lens redundant at all.

Examples are quite sharp

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Oct 06, 2006 09:29 |  #7

Sheep dog; I'd go with the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 or the Sigma 17-70 which can also do closeups. Remember any lens that's not DC or EFS will not give you a wide enough view on the 350D, so you'd lose the wideness. The Canon 17-85 is okay, but it's not a low light lens and it's CA and BD is horrid. The EFS 17-55 2.8 iS is great but costs a fortune. The Tamron is not that noisy, I tried it in the store on my XT and it was Ok. The only problem is the Tammy has issues with focus in low light, so I'd end up with the Sigma AF 17-70 DC f/2.8-4.5 macro...


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Oct 06, 2006 09:49 |  #8

Janika wrote in post #2084583 (external link)
Sheep dog; I'd go with the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 or the Sigma 17-70 which can also do closeups. Remember any lens that's not DC or EFS will not give you a wide enough view on the 350D, so you'd lose the wideness. The Canon 17-85 is okay, but it's not a low light lens and it's CA and BD is horrid. The EFS 17-55 2.8 iS is great but costs a fortune. The Tamron is not that noisy, I tried it in the store on my XT and it was Ok. The only problem is the Tammy has issues with focus in low light, so I'd end up with the Sigma AF 17-70 DC f/2.8-4.5 macro...

Crop factor applies to all lenses, even EF-S and DC and Di II.


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Oct 06, 2006 09:55 |  #9

From your list I'd go with #1 or #2.
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Oct 06, 2006 15:32 |  #10

I rarely notice the AF noise on the 17-50, though it's there... Almost a reassuring noise.

Love the results I'm getting with it. Optics are excellent.

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Oct 06, 2006 15:35 as a reply to  @ cjd's post |  #11

I would keep the lenses you have and buy a flash. The BEST purchase I have made for indoor shots.


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Oct 06, 2006 15:55 |  #12

I would go with # 1. It is noisy, but it takes great pics. If you can't get the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, then the Tamron is the next best thing in most cases.

The noise sounds a bit like a servo in a radio controlled car. If the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS did not exist, I would have chosen the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8. I almost did anyways.

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Oct 06, 2006 16:54 |  #13

Tamron is the only fast lens out of your 3 lens of choices within your budget. You should also consider the new Sigma version of 17-50 f2.8 Macro


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Oct 06, 2006 19:29 as a reply to  @ bufferbure1's post |  #14

I'd suggest keep saving for a bit longer and get the EF-S 17-55 IS lens - it's the one you really want, right?


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Oct 06, 2006 19:43 |  #15

bufferbure1 wrote in post #2086212 (external link)
Tamron is the only fast lens out of your 3 lens of choices within your budget. You should also consider the new Sigma version of 17-50 f2.8 Macro

im not finding this lens anywhere




  
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