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Post Your Graduated Neutral Density Sample Shots Please

 
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Oct 06, 2006 15:41 |  #1

...been looking to get a GND filter setup for doing sunrises/susets... would like some examples of what they can do... Thanks! (please post manufacturer and gradient types with images)




  
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Oct 06, 2006 15:52 |  #2

Well, I don't think any sample photo will show you what a ND filter does. It will ideally yield the same image as without but by using a longer exposure while keeping everything else the same.

EDIT: Did you mean a GND or CP filter perhaps? If it's the latter, it will not help much if at all. If the former, there are some threads here that illustrate the use of a GND.


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Oct 06, 2006 16:07 |  #3

Sorry, yes I meant GND...




  
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Oct 06, 2006 16:36 |  #4

Ok, ill bite
All these with a Lee 3 stop GND

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Oct 06, 2006 16:38 as a reply to  @ amonline's post |  #5

Well the beauty of ND grads is that you can take shots that come out in almost exactly the way you saw the scene with your own eyes.

You'd most likely be better with some with/without test shots which I'm afraid I don't have.

ND grads help bring together the dinamic range ie the bright skies and not so bright foreground, sometimes without an ND grad detail in the sky can be washed out if your exposing for the land.

They're very helpfull when Scotlands not so sunny, which is most of the time :lol:

All these shots are with a Lee ND grad 0.6 (2 stop)

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Oct 06, 2006 17:53 |  #6
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OK,i don`t think you will find many posts or tests here with before and after,what i have to offer is this...
No way you would get this sky in these images without a ND Grad , Lee 0.6 & 0.9
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Oct 06, 2006 17:59 |  #7

Actually this is an excellent request and great results so far.

Used a HiTech 0.6 soft edge Gradual Neutral Density Filter on these.

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Oct 06, 2006 18:09 |  #8

Keep this post going, I've really been debating getting into the Cokin/Lee/Hi-tech setup for my 17-40 as I primarilly shoot landscapes. It's between the filters and getting a telephoto....ahhh what to do!?!

Do you guys use hard or soft? 2-3+ stops? Keep the feedback coming.

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Oct 06, 2006 18:22 as a reply to  @ Dorman's post |  #9

Great photos...to add to this question...is there one Grad. filter that would be used the most? Looks like 0.6 is used alot...also if a person had a 10-20mm and a 28-75mm...both with different size lens...would it make the most sense to get one for the 10-20 or the 28-75? Seems to me it would be the 10-20.

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Oct 06, 2006 18:33 |  #10

Related question, Toney might now since he has both, for the 10-22 you need the wide angle filter holder, how about for the 17-40? Reason I ask is that if you have the regular P-series cokin holder you can stack multiple filters but you can use only on with the WA (I think I'm correct here)?



  
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Oct 06, 2006 18:36 |  #11

ND huh! Man, if I thought my work would ever be close to the shots you folks have presented in this thread I'd buy whatever younsaid...unfortunatl​y I'm sure it is more than just the lens/filters!...I have not used a ND lens ever...any good reading material on the subject?


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Oct 06, 2006 18:49 |  #12

PEACHMAN wrote in post #2086598 (external link)
ND huh! Man, if I thought my work would ever be close to the shots you folks have presented in this thread I'd buy whatever younsaid...unfortunatl​y I'm sure it is more than just the lens/filters!...I have not used a ND lens ever...any good reading material on the subject?

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Oct 06, 2006 18:59 as a reply to  @ PEACHMAN's post |  #13

First for those who don't know theres a difference in Neutral Density and Gradual Neutral Density. The ND is most beneficial when you can't achieve a slow enough shutter speed in bright lighting for slowing down motion, as in water flow. The Gradual is a split filter being only half in neutral density. They come in soft or hard edge with the later being most useful for even horizons, as in oceans scenes.

The Cokin 85P (single slot) wide angle adapter will work on the Canon EF-S 10-22mm down to 10mm but with my 30D there is very slight vignetting in the corners. On my 350D/XT the setup did not vignette. Its easily fixable in post processing. The other option is the Cokin Z-Pro series setup but very expensive as the the filters cost more than the 85P filters.

Here's my setup:

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Oct 06, 2006 19:33 |  #14

Thanks a bunch for the info Toney.



  
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Oct 06, 2006 19:38 |  #15

ND Grad (Cokin) to control the lights from being too blown out on this 40 sec exp.

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