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50mm f1.2 L - Is it worth it?

 
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Oct 10, 2006 13:11 |  #46

For any portrait users on 1.6 crop, who liked the 85L but thought it was too long, here comes the shorter version. So its worth it to the people who would consider the 85L.

But worth it is only relative of course. Is anything in photography worth it? That's for you to decide.


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Oct 10, 2006 13:15 as a reply to  @ grego's post |  #47

Not quite a review but interesting nontheless:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com ….2-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)


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Oct 10, 2006 14:25 |  #48

AeroSmith wrote in post #2102215 (external link)
Not quite a review but interesting nontheless:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com ….2-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)

So is the 100+ page FM thread on the 50 f/1.2.
Voluminous.
Well, if that's not enough for ya, try their 300 page unofficial Photokina rumour thread...singlehandedl​y written by a physician, three IT techs, and an ambulance chaser.:lol:
(Oops, now I see that Porschah- your avatar, hope you are not one of them MDs:confused: )

Either way, the real lens assessments are unfortunately still pending.


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Oct 10, 2006 16:36 |  #49

Petkal wrote in post #2102494 (external link)
Well, if that's not enough for ya, try their 300 page unofficial Photokina rumour thread...singlehandedl​y written by a physician, three IT techs, and an ambulance chaser.:lol:

I'm no physician but I may have helped with the writing a bit. ;)

Either way, the real lens assessments are unfortunately still pending.

Yep.


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Oct 10, 2006 16:38 |  #50

grego wrote in post #2102197 (external link)
But worth it is only relative of course. Is anything in photography worth it? That's for you to decide.

What? You mean people I've never met on an internet forum shouldn't decide or dictate my photographic needs for me? I've been ill advised. :(

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Oct 10, 2006 16:39 |  #51

Tom W wrote in post #2103149 (external link)
I'm no physician but I may have helped with the writing a bit. ;)

So you did, and so did I.:lol: However...our contributions were more......reasoned, shall we say.;)


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Oct 10, 2006 16:47 |  #52

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The 50 1.4 is presented as having .438% barrel distortion while the 35L has .486%. Not really enough to even see unless you're at a serious pixel peeping level.

Start shooting interiors or archetecture and it will stand out quite prominently. Otherwise, it's not really a problem.
BTW, just curious as to where you found those particular figures on distortion.

I haven't heard of focus issues but one or two times here and there, which could be expected from any lens. Even wide open the 1.4 performs VERY well.

Haven't had any focus issues of my own (other than being a bit slow for sports), but there's plenty of banter about the 'net about people having inconsistent focus with the 50/1.4. Could be the shallow DOF throwing them off a bit, though. Lots of newbies in the SLR world.

I'm just wondering how much more performance any photographer really needs from the 1.4, how many really need that better build and weathersealing because they've dropped their lenses many times before and they bounced into a mud puddle. If one can justify the purchase and honestly state that it's worth 900 dollars more and that it makes them a better photographer then that's fine but I'd be willing to bet most of it is just buying it to have it.

Time will tell just how much people are willing to make the move to the 1.2. It's not cheap, that's for certain. And it won't be extremely popular in terms of sales. As for the buyers, it's really irrelevent as to their motive for doing so - after all, it's their money. Will it improve their product? Depends on the product and their shooting situations.


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Oct 10, 2006 16:52 |  #53

Lord_Malone wrote in post #2103159 (external link)
What? You mean people I've never met on an internet forum shouldn't decide or dictate my photographic needs for me? I've been ill advised. :(

;)

Never you mind Grego, brutha, that boy is a 120-300 shooter.:rolleyes: Nuff said.


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Oct 10, 2006 17:08 |  #54

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Never you mind Grego, brutha, that boy is a 120-300 shooter.:rolleyes: Nuff said.

Yes. And I truly honestly suck at everything I do. Really. :(


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Oct 10, 2006 18:37 |  #55

Tom W wrote in post #2103195 (external link)
Start shooting interiors or archetecture and it will stand out quite prominently. Otherwise, it's not really a problem.
BTW, just curious as to where you found those particular figures on distortion.
Haven't had any focus issues of my own (other than being a bit slow for sports), but there's plenty of banter about the 'net about people having inconsistent focus with the 50/1.4. Could be the shallow DOF throwing them off a bit, though. Lots of newbies in the SLR world.
Time will tell just how much people are willing to make the move to the 1.2. It's not cheap, that's for certain. And it won't be extremely popular in terms of sales. As for the buyers, it's really irrelevent as to their motive for doing so - after all, it's their money. Will it improve their product? Depends on the product and their shooting situations.

Photozone translates the barrell distortion to a percentage. NOW - that is something to be taken with a grain of salt seeing how the percentage is just ONE lens sample and not historical data of the lens that has been averaged. Still, solid info to go off of!
Personally I think it's the DOF issue. Some samples of potential mis focus have been of canvas type material. You really need to pixel peep to find what threading is OOF! Of a potrait, focus on the nose and wonder why the eyes aren't in focus.
I don't think it will improve their end product...But it's all assumptions really. Perhaps the 50 1.2 will launch with similar distortion numbers, maybe it will be slower to focus, who know! All in all, it's not my place to suggest how people should spend their money. However, the thread does pose the question "is it worth it" :D


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Oct 10, 2006 18:46 |  #56

Petkal wrote in post #2102494 (external link)
(Oops, now I see that Porschah- your avatar, hope you are not one of them MDs:confused: )

No worries...just a humble portfolio manager working out of his garage. :)


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Oct 10, 2006 19:11 |  #57

Mr. Clean wrote in post #2103636 (external link)
Photozone translates the barrell distortion to a percentage. NOW - that is something to be taken with a grain of salt seeing how the percentage is just ONE lens sample and not historical data of the lens that has been averaged. Still, solid info to go off of!

Just a note - Photozone's tests are done on a 350D, meaning that the results are valid for 1.6X cameras, but not necessarily for full-frame cameras. The extremes of the image circle are more prone to showing distortions.

Personally I think it's the DOF issue. Some samples of potential mis focus have been of canvas type material. You really need to pixel peep to find what threading is OOF! Of a potrait, focus on the nose and wonder why the eyes aren't in focus.

That can be a real issue with any lens, but with a very shallow depth-of-field, technique is essential. The smaller viewfinders on many DSLR cameras doesn't help in selecting the desired focus plane manually.

I don't think it will improve their end product...But it's all assumptions really. Perhaps the 50 1.2 will launch with similar distortion numbers, maybe it will be slower to focus, who know! All in all, it's not my place to suggest how people should spend their money. However, the thread does pose the question "is it worth it" :D

Yes, that is the question. And the only answer will come when the lens really gets circulated and tested. Canon may have geared this lens to the portrait photographer like the 85/1.2, or it may be an all-purpose low-light "standard" lens with good AF speed, low distortion, good corner sharpness, good bokeh, and good contrast. At any rate, I would expect it to outperform the 50/1.4. If it doesn't, I won't buy it.


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Oct 10, 2006 19:57 |  #58

AeroSmith wrote in post #2103681 (external link)
No worries...just a humble portfolio manager working out of his garage. :)

No worry Smithy, just joking...;)


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Oct 10, 2006 20:15 as a reply to  @ PetKal's post |  #59

So the question remains....when will this lens be available?


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Oct 10, 2006 20:16 |  #60

End of this month, they say.


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