Strap vs. no strap

zak8956 wrote in post #2130309
Hi,

just got a new 400d, and I can't make up my mind whether to put on the strap. I use the camera a lot at home, and I think the strap will be bothersome here. The strap that comes with the camera doesn't look like you can put it on and off easily.
Are there any straps that can be clicked on and off easily?

Thanks,
zak

Yes, there are after market ones from makers like Tamrac that make strap that attach by clip.

TMR Design wrote in post #2139977
Well I understand what you are saying but I really don't understand why you are pushing the strap so much. If the camera returns to a padded place, that seems much safer than having it explosed, either hand held or on a strap. And what do you do when you are not shooting for hours? You just wear the camera around your neck? I am sorry but that does not sound like something I want to do and I said before....sometimes you are places that you do not want to wave the fact that you have an expensive piece of gear around your neck. You make it seem as if having a strap makes it fool proof and I am not sure I buy that.

You also do not hear about the people with a nice strap and still had a fall or accident and I am sure those people are out ther too. And I clearly saw pros posting about this and talking about how they don't like or trust a strap. I believe one person said that even with a strap he still keeps a hand on the camera. SO why not just place it back into a nice comfy soft bag and have it be inconspicuous.

I am not negating the fact that accidents happen but they could happen with it around your neck, on a grip, in a bag or any other method of carrying. I don't see the strap as being any more of a safeguard than using your head, being careful and having some cushioning around the camera when not in use.

I'm not trying to be an ass, although I may come off as one in saying in...but it's a little bit more of a hassle to open up and store a camera in a bag after every picture when you have a larger dSLR, than when you are carrying around a small P+S. That is why alot of us rely on a strap. Of course it won't be as safe as a fully padded back, but it's better to me than just a wrist strap or no strap at all. In fact, even on the rare occasions that I do carry around my bag, when the camera is out of the bag I *still* use the strap as an extra level of precaution against dropping the camera.

You are right in that they are not foolproof though. Then again, neither is a seatbelt. They are both just added levels of precaution in case other things go wrong. Neither will save you in every situation, but when they do, you'll be thankful you had taken adantage of them.

Handstrap only. Mine has a safety strap which secures it around my wrist. Good for street shooting as the camera at ones side becomes almost invisible. Neckstraps for tourists or brand lovers only

condyk wrote in post #2140359
Handstrap only. Mine has a safety strap which secures it around my wrist. Good for street shooting as the camera at ones side becomes almost invisible. Neckstraps for tourists or brand lovers only

A photo perhaps? I still want to know what these things look likea ttached to the camera.

Type in 'hand strap' at eBay.

Mine is this one and I got the version with Nikon stamped into the leather as that is more fun. They don't have Leica stamped ones unfortunately. 100% recommended. I don't think I got mine off that seller tho' and mine was a bit cheaper all in if I remember. Search around if you want to copy me

TMR Design wrote in post #2139784
I was juct checking specifications on the NG2475 and it seems to be tall enough to have a 30D with a 70-200mm lens on it with room to spare. I am curious as to why you say it does not fit. The smaller bag I can see that it would be tight or not close but this medium shoulder bag looks like it will accomodate that lens. I am referencing the Sigma 70-200mm. Are you talking about another lens that is longer when at its shortest focal length?

I'm refering to my Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM. It fits, don't get me wrong! I mean it doesn't fit inside the small insert that goes in the bag to hold the camera in place. It sticks out the top of it. But that's not a big problem, as the main flap still fits rather nicely over the whole thing.

TMR Design wrote in post #2139977
Well I understand what you are saying but I really don't understand why you are pushing the strap so much. If the camera returns to a padded place, that seems much safer than having it explosed, either hand held or on a strap. And what do you do when you are not shooting for hours? You just wear the camera around your neck? I am sorry but that does not sound like something I want to do and I said before....sometimes you are places that you do not want to wave the fact that you have an expensive piece of gear around your neck. You make it seem as if having a strap makes it fool proof and I am not sure I buy that.

You also do not hear about the people with a nice strap and still had a fall or accident and I am sure those people are out ther too. And I clearly saw pros posting about this and talking about how they don't like or trust a strap. I believe one person said that even with a strap he still keeps a hand on the camera. SO why not just place it back into a nice comfy soft bag and have it be inconspicuous.

I am not negating the fact that accidents happen but they could happen with it around your neck, on a grip, in a bag or any other method of carrying. I don't see the strap as being any more of a safeguard than using your head, being careful and having some cushioning around the camera when not in use.

I'm for both. The strap and the bag. When it's not in the bag, the strap's around my neck, or sometimes with the 50mm, just wrapped around my arm securly so if I drop the camera, it doesn't try to return from whence it came. (well, in a round about manner)

SpiltPickle wrote in post #2140996
I'm for both. The strap and the bag. When it's not in the bag, the strap's around my neck, or sometimes with the 50mm, just wrapped around my arm securly so if I drop the camera, it doesn't try to return from whence it came. (well, in a round about manner)

So when you put the camera in the bag are you putting it away with the strap attached or do you have a strap with quick disconnects? Do you feel confident when the camera is on a strap on your neck that you can carry it hands-free? I am more paranoid about a strap failing or slipping than about me dropping it.

TMR Design wrote in post #2141008
So when you put the camera in the bag are you putting it away with the strap attached or do you have a strap with quick disconnects? Do you feel confident when the camera is on a strap on your neck that you can carry it hands-free? I am more paranoid about a strap failing or slipping than about me dropping it.

I put it in the bag with the strap still attached. Makes it quicker.
When I was using the canon strap, I'd let it hang hands free for small periods of time. Most of the time my hands were on the camera to take a shot if needed though. With this new op/tech strap, I keep staring at those little plastic quick releases, and then my expensive equipment... so I keep a hand on it at all times. To be fair though, I haven't heard of the quick releases on an op/tech failing yet.

strap around the neck for me, means I can just put it down without any hassle + I know it's safe around my neck.

Rezarf

Rezarf wrote in post #2141267
strap around the neck for me, means I can just put it down without any hassle + I know it's safe around my neck.

Rezarf

Which strap are you using? So I assume you feel the camera is secure? or do you also keep one hand on the camera as a safety measure?

I use mine soly as a safety strap...would hate to drop it...!! even if it's not around my neck I have it wrapped around my wrist...Agghhhh, it would be a awful sound to hear it hit the floor!

condyk wrote in post #2140556
Type in 'hand strap' at eBay.

Mine is this one and I got the version with Nikon stamped into the leather as that is more fun. They don't have Leica stamped ones unfortunately. 100% recommended. I don't think I got mine off that seller tho' and mine was a bit cheaper all in if I remember. Search around if you want to copy me

Interesting. Does it help with the stability like those pod beanie bags?

BryanP wrote in post #2140324
What are you gonna do? Keep opening your bag and putting it back inside?

Plan9 wrote in post #2140315
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Camera bags are nice, but I have never liked the hassle of having to fish the camera out every time you want to take the shot. Often times by the time the camera is out of the bag and you're ready to shoot, the moment is over.

Mine is carried in my Nova 5 95% of the time. I keep the short ends of the POTN strap hooked together on the camera also. As far as getting the camera out of the bag it takes no longer than grabbing it when hanging in front of you to get ready to shoot. When I'm in the area I want to shoot the bag is open and Ijust lift the flap and go. When walking you can hook a fast release clasp if you don't want to zip it up. When I do have the full strap on and hanging around my neck I always seem to hold the camera with one hand because it is bouncing and swaying all over the place.

I took for camera out today and since I had no case, bag or POTN strap I used the strap provided by Canon to see how it felt. I can definitely get used to it but I still want a bag to put it in when not in use and of course for some accessories and room for a future lens or two plus flash.
I am leaning towards the NG bags but I do have to go check them out. I am ot sure a shoulder bag is for me because anytime I have ever had a shoulder bag, including a small one I got for my A620 and accesories I found that is always slid down and constantly needs to be adjusted. I don't like the backpacks because they are more than I need and in public places it seems like it would be easy for someone to get in to the pockets and since it is all on your back you might never even know it. Belt packs are nice when the bag is light but I can't imagine having this camera and extras hanging form my belt. I think my pants might fall down if I did that.
So like everything else I am going to have to research and go look at some things.
I will probably order the POTN strap though, because it looks great, everyone seems to like it and it is a good way to support these forums. The information, guidance and all arond nice people are invaluable and easily worth the cost of a strap and a contribution.