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Charging for an event....per photo or per hour?

 
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Oct 17, 2006 02:45 |  #1

I've been approached my a higher non-league football (Soccer) team to cover some games. They have asked my rates and as I haven't done an photography for money as yet I'm a little out of touch of the "going rate" and how to charge. For example its a game of 90mins, I don't know how many pics I will produce which would be of a good standard so maybe its better to charge one fee for attending the game? Could I then charge per hour on top?

Of course what is a good rate to charge for 90mins of photography plus a bit of travel expense on top say 10miles in the car.

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Oct 17, 2006 04:18 |  #2

Are the images for the club or for the team members parents to buy? You can charge whatever you like, whether they accept it or not is another question. Sports photographers will chime in here i'm sure, they'll be able to give you more useful advice than I can. You might like to fill in your location in your profile though.

Personally I probably wouldn't shoot purely in the hope that people will choose to buy prints - lots of risk there, giving up part of your weekend.


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Oct 17, 2006 04:47 |  #3

Why not have a look in here, should find all the advice you might ever need....

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Oct 17, 2006 05:03 |  #4

It would be selling them to the club, which is why I was thinking of charging a flat amount for my time and 5 photos then anyother photos say £5 more per photo.

The team gets around 250-300 people per game paying around £8 entry. so I need to pitch a level I'm happy with that they won't reject.


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Oct 17, 2006 06:44 |  #5

Whatever price you quote them, they'll never pay you more, so don't undersell your time/expertise.


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Oct 17, 2006 09:37 |  #6

50-80 quid a game and include 5 photos?


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Oct 17, 2006 09:54 |  #7

So, at that rate, they would basically be paying £10 per photo. What are they planning on doing with them? IMO it doesn't sound enough.


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Oct 17, 2006 10:09 |  #8

I reckon web site and programme use, but its a non-league team with not many spectators and I know they get images for free but not at the quality I produce which is the key thing. I'd be happy enough with £80 as its only a couple of miles away from my home.


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Oct 17, 2006 10:28 |  #9

I personally wouldn't give them hi-res images for that figure. Maybe lower the resolution and/or limit use.


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Oct 17, 2006 10:46 as a reply to  @ TeeJay's post |  #10

I would charge a set fee per game plus each image. You could vary the cost of the image depending on usage.
How much per game depends on what you want and how much they are prepard to pay.
May worth keeping in mind you may be able to sell additional images to local newpapers etc.


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Oct 17, 2006 11:06 |  #11

Graham, yeah I agree on a set fee which will include some images, I know they won't pay a lot and the local press down here won't buy images I've tried.

OK I'll ping my response to the club then and see what comes back.

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Oct 17, 2006 19:20 |  #12

you can't charge an hourly rate... the client will expect a million photos. treat this in the same manor as a portrait shoot. charge them a "sitting fee" where the sitting fee is your time to cover the event. do not include any prints in this price. this price should be for home games only and any games that are at different venues should include a surcharge for travel

how are you planning on presenting the images to your client? you have a few options. the best / easiest way would be to create a simple gallery and put them online, either using the web based gallery in photoshop (look into the flash based one in cs2 so they can't right click and save as) or using software, like gallery or coppermine. then make up a simple spreadsheet and have those who want to order prints write the print name / size / quantity on the form and give it back to you, then make the prints.

if they don't have the internet, you can easily put this on CD for them, again using photoshop cs2's flash based web gallery.

another option would be to use photoshop cs or cs2's contact sheet function to print thumbnails on an 8.5x11 sheet(s) of paper w/ the file names under them and pass out one or two of them to the team, again w/ the same spreadsheets for taking orders.

you could also consider doing a package deal... say for X amount of money, they get one 8x12, two 5x7's and 8 wallet prints, a savings of 5-10% over what the individual prices would be.

like others said, do not undervalue your services.


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Oct 18, 2006 02:34 |  #13

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Graham, yeah I agree on a set fee which will include some images, I know they won't pay a lot and the local press down here won't buy images I've tried.

OK I'll ping my response to the club then and see what comes back.

cheers guys

Sounds like you are quite keen to land this job. In which case maybe just charge per image. If going this route make sure you tell them you are not charginging anything for attending only per print.May be worth adding you will review this at the end of each season. Should get you the job and keep it more open ended.


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