Uk Rally Photogs....Careful

Hi Dave this has happened to me recently. someone was using a shot of mine to advertise their company in their sig on forums. if you get me on MSN I'll send you a draft letter I used.

Ross

As far as I know Dave, you are legally entitled to BILL them for images that have been used (and add a % on top of what you would have charged). Even if they take them down, they have had some use out of them and should pay up accordingly.

Dave_G wrote in post #2136347
And ONE MILLION POUNDS MUHAHAHAHAHAHAA

And you have permission to post this image on the internet - I assume you have paid the film company...

well...seeing as its not promoting anything, and couldn't be seen to promote anything but the film it came from (making money for the copyright holder, not the poster) then it would probably not be very sue-able.

hahaha

I hot linked it from http://edbatista.typep​ad.com/edbatista/image​s

if you google 'Tempest Rally Images' I'm sure that my Fotki site doesn't come up!

So I got an interesting email this morning, it was worth a try I suppose.

As an aside, I have asked that he provide me with the similar image, as there were definitely no other photogs at the corner when the car nearly landed on my head.

Well David
Thats quit a comprehensive **** slapping isnt it , I wouldnt like to think how much of that is true , but he does sound convincing methinks. Will the image still be in the programme ?

Dave_G wrote in post #2135855
Will let you know how they respond.

If they had emailed me and asked me I wouldn't have minded. But seeing as they just robbed them I do.

There's a difference isn't there. one is robbery and the other is respect, if they'd paid you that would have been even more respectful.

peacock wrote in post #2194439
Well David
Thats quit a comprehensive **** slapping isnt it , I wouldnt like to think how much of that is true , but he does sound convincing methinks. Will the image still be in the programme ?

I consider myself well and truly he-**** man E-slapped by that!

Oh well, will put massive GOOD MORNING TEMPEST RALLY!!111 text across the shots I do.

And yes, by the sounds of it, the shot will be on the front page of the programme. Will BUY a copy, laminate it and you know the rest...

Gerry@Rick wrote in post #2194489
There's a difference isn't there. one is robbery and the other is respect, if they'd paid you that would have been even more respectful.

Yeah exactly, would have been a bit of a knob out moment to have them ask to use the shot for the front cover!

Because copyright protection in many cases is automatic and does not need registration, much digital content found on the Internet will be protected by copyright. In most cases, the copyright holder will need to be approached prior to any use of the images that fall beyond the limited exceptions permitted by law (for further information see Fair Dealing below). This also means that although a copyright credit line is not necessary for a work to be afforded copyright protection, if a credit line is used, its use can provide proof that the work is protected by copyright particularly in the context of international publishing activities that the Web provides. If used, the copyright credit line should take the following form: ("Year, name of rights holder, All Rights Reserved").
http://www.tasi.ac.uk …naging/copyrigh​t.html#cp2

I cant find anything on the forestry commision site about them holding image rights.
and I dont recall seeing a photographic rights disclaimer on tempest rally tickets either

but what he said about an image needing a copyright notice flys in the face of everything you read which states copyright is automatic , I dont understand

tickets? didn't pay to get into the stages.

I can't be arsed anymore

Will scan the cover of the programme when I get one and put it up here, I'm sure that contravenes some form of copyright laws.

Dave_G wrote in post #2195055
tickets? didn't pay to get into the stages.

I can't be arsed anymore

Will scan the cover of the programme when I get one and put it up here, I'm sure that contravenes some form of copyright laws.

Expensive parking

That would be funny if he could sue you for copyright infringement , I'm suerly glad I only shoot for a larf

Same here. hahaha

Dave_G wrote in post #2194321
It is traditional that the organisers of events are granted free use of any media or images which are recorded or taken during their events - By signing on as Media (which I would ask you to confirm that you did so that I can cross reference our records), you are expected to assign such a courtesy.

Sorry I didn't read whole thread so I might be a bit off.. Upper quote from mail you got says it all. If you did sign accreditation form and this was stated on that accreditation form, then you don't have much to do.
BUT! If this wasn't written on accreditation form which you signed, then I really don't care if "it's traditional that organisers are granted free use of any images". If you didn't sign that they have no rights to use those photos. If they meant to put it there, but they didn't because of whatever reason, it's their problem. Tradition or no tradition.
Another issue is, if you didn't have accreditation. I have no idea how it's in UK, but here I'm free to wander around forrests and fields, and if I "accidentaly" see race going through I can freely shoot photos. And accreditation or no accreditation, images are in that case my and only my. And noone has "right for free use" of those images.