is the extra 1.2 stop worth the extra $500?
Im hoping to go shoot some HS football, since all games are at night, will the 2.8 work better than the 4?
ChrisBlaze Goldmember  1,801 posts Joined Oct 2006 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii More info | Oct 21, 2006 14:13 | #1 is the extra 1.2 stop worth the extra $500? Canon 1D Mark II N/5D Mark III/ 6D/ 7D /85mm f1.2L Mk1/ 24-70 f2.8L/ 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM/ 100mm Macro f/2.8
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mikez Senior Member 364 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2006 Location: TX More info | Oct 21, 2006 14:29 | #2 Definte, you can't do anything with f/4 at night.
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JMHPhotography Goldmember  4,784 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2005 Location: New Hampshire More info | Oct 21, 2006 14:43 | #3 ChrisBlaze wrote in post #2150128  is the extra 1.2 stop worth the extra $500? Im hoping to go shoot some HS football, since all games are at night, will the 2.8 work better than the 4? It's only 1 stop. And as far as not being able to do anything with f/4 at night....  However, to answer your question... is f/2.8 better than f/4? Of course. I think the question you should be asking instead of is it worth the extra money is, "Can I afford the extra money"? I personally couldn't afford the f/2.8 lens or I would have got that one instead of the f/4 version. Always buy the BEST option you can afford. The purpose of my posting this image wasn't to say the f/4 is just as good because clearly it isn't. But the point is that if you can't afford the f/2.8, the f/4 lens will work if you know your limitations and work within them. This image at f/2.8 could have been captured with this shutter speed at ISO800(less noise), and with a bit less DOF(a little more background blur). ~John
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Oct 21, 2006 14:46 | #4 mikez wrote in post #2150170 Definte, you can't do anything with f/4 at night. if that the case should I just wait for the 2.8 IS? Canon 1D Mark II N/5D Mark III/ 6D/ 7D /85mm f1.2L Mk1/ 24-70 f2.8L/ 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM/ 100mm Macro f/2.8
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mxwphoto Senior Member  588 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2006 Location: Bay Area CA More info | Oct 21, 2006 15:00 | #5 ChrisBlaze wrote in post #2150226 if that the case should I just wait for the 2.8 IS? With the IS version being about nearly 3x the price of the f/4, it all boils down to satisfaction for the $$$ spent. Some people may care for the reduction in noise and better bokeh, and some might not. Though one can pretty much say that IS is for shooting relatively still objects, portraits, and possibly panning shots. I would recommend heading to your local camera store and trying out the various incarnations of the 70-200 and then deciding if such a beast is right for you. Great shots are like great parking spaces... if you're not quick, it's gone!
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crn3371 Cream of the Crop  7,198 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2005 Location: SoCal, USA More info | Oct 21, 2006 15:05 | #6 Nothing beats a fast lens for nightime events. That being said, there is a large price difference and weight difference between the two lenses. If money is a big issue, a good compromise would be the Sigma 70-200 f2.8.
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KevC Goldmember  3,154 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: to More info | Oct 21, 2006 15:09 | #7 In my opinion, you can't really do anything with f/2.8 at night either... lol. Look for primes... Too much gear...
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Kristian Senior Member 527 posts Joined Jul 2006 Location: Denmark More info | Oct 21, 2006 15:20 | #8 Agree with KevC. F/2.8 won't help you much more at night. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/22782659@N03
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Oct 21, 2006 15:23 | #9 I will be trying to stand on the fence line and maybe up in the stands,so what do you guys recomend for primes? Is the EF 135mm f/2L USM any good? Canon 1D Mark II N/5D Mark III/ 6D/ 7D /85mm f1.2L Mk1/ 24-70 f2.8L/ 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM/ 100mm Macro f/2.8
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buckwheat Member  229 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2005 Location: Canada More info | Oct 21, 2006 16:26 | #10 f/2.8 is 100 miles better than f/4. IS is another story. If f/2.8 is available...it does not matter how much you want to save/spend...it is still the thing to have! If you know f/2.8 you never want to give him up! I have owned a few slower lenses and have sold all but one (24-105L)...and I do wish it was f/2.8! 5D/35L/50 1.4/85 1.8/100 Macro/ 16-35L/24-70L/24-105L
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Dorman Goldmember  4,661 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: Halifax, NS More info | Oct 21, 2006 17:06 | #11 Why not look at the Sigma 70-200 F/2.8?
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rklepper Dignity-Esteem-Compassion  9,019 posts Gallery: 2 photos Likes: 14 Joined Dec 2003 Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA. More info | Oct 21, 2006 17:25 | #12 The short answer is yes, if and when you need the extra stop. Doc Klepper in the USA
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begovics Senior Member  345 posts Joined Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida More info | Oct 21, 2006 17:45 | #13 ChrisBlaze wrote in post #2150352 I will be trying to stand on the fence line and maybe up in the stands,so what do you guys recomend for primes? Is the EF 135mm f/2L USM any good? Ok, that's the only Canon telephoto lens faster than 2.8 and It may be the Canon sharpest lens, but rarely used by pros for football. Pros usually use a couple of lenses and if they had to use only one, that would be a zoom or 200mm and higher prime and for a night certainly faster then f4.0. still thinking...
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Oct 21, 2006 18:07 | #14 Dorman wrote in post #2150751 Why not look at the Sigma 70-200 F/2.8? Ritz has it on sale right now for $649, I might pick it up. Canon 1D Mark II N/5D Mark III/ 6D/ 7D /85mm f1.2L Mk1/ 24-70 f2.8L/ 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM/ 100mm Macro f/2.8
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akhater Member  163 posts Joined Sep 2006 Location: On earth, unfortunately More info | Oct 21, 2006 18:08 | #15 actually the price difference is MUCH lower than that, the 70-200 f/4 L IS hit the market All Day I Dream About Photography
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