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Oct 21, 2006 15:45 |  #1

very dim overhead lighting only. no flash iso 400, f1.4,1/250.

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Oct 21, 2006 15:45 |  #2

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Oct 21, 2006 15:55 |  #3

In the first shot, his left hand is too far up the sleeve, his right hand should be on his ooponents belt, giving him more leverage, and he has jump in too far, causing him to have to lift his oponent over his back rather than using his hip as leverage....

Oh, THE PICTURE.

I think you have done a brilliant job with the lighting - the expression on the attacking lads face is wonderful - well done!


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Oct 22, 2006 01:04 |  #4

I would crank the ISO up a notch so you can het a higher shutter speed. Also, watch your horizons.




  
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Oct 22, 2006 11:28 |  #5

This is exactly the type of shooting I do 90% of the time.

The first photo is great. It's amazing you got these at iso 400.

If they do much striking, or sparring you're going to need to bump up the iso a bit for faster shutter speeds. Also as they get more advanced a lot of what they do should become faster in general. You can see the motion blur in the feet in the first pic.

The second is missing a lot because of position which can't be helped alot of the time depending on the school. If I know what's being tested I will sometimes move to another spot as the technique is done and then repeated. The mirrors and cluttered backgrounds are impossible to avoid most of the time.

His technique... :)
I was going to comment on the technique too, but would have been different than what TeeJay offered. One of the things I have always enjoyed about the Martial Arts is the 1,000 different ways a technique can be taught and executed even with something as simple as this hip throw.

Looks like a belt test. Did he pass?


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Oct 22, 2006 16:07 as a reply to  @ JFusion's post |  #6

thanks for everyone's advice. I think the PP version is much better.Yes it was a belt test. He did great all his Judo throws and his Jiu-Jitsu hold were right on.We wont know till Tuesday if he is belting up.Two big tournaments in November lots of sparring.

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Oct 22, 2006 19:12 |  #7

As mentioned earlier...I would up the ISO .....not to increase the shutter speed...but to increase the DOF with a better ( larger ) f-stop. Shooting at f 1.4 doesn't give much margin for sharpness. Shutter speed of 250 with your wides is reasonable, at little more DOF would assure that all of each kids is sharp. Just my opinion. Great shots otherwise, you caught the action wonderfully, exposure perfect.


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Oct 26, 2006 05:00 as a reply to  @ jcpoulin's post |  #8

congratulation's he belted up, three more to junior black belt.


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Oct 26, 2006 15:02 |  #9

Crank that ISO up to 1600 and use a noise reducer and be amazed at how much nicer theyw ill turn out.


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Oct 26, 2006 16:41 as a reply to  @ superdiver's post |  #10

iso at 1600 on my 350 = more noise then I could stand.even with a noise program 800 or 1600 iso dosnt work for me, maybe if i could get away useing a tripod.


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Oct 27, 2006 23:32 |  #11

Here is a shot I just finished PPing. I used my 350D, ISO 1600, DPP, and Neat Image.

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Not too bad for ISO 1600. The secret I have found is to get the exposure good and the noise is managable.

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Oct 27, 2006 23:34 |  #12

Here is another....same settings...

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Oct 27, 2006 23:43 |  #13

Or even the worst conditions I have yet to encounter, INDOOR SWIM MEETS....LOL

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I dont show these cuz I think I am "all that", but rather cuz I know I am NOT and even I can get decent shots of my kids in their poorly light sports arenas....with a little luck and lot of playing around with the right settings, at ISO 1600. I wish I had one of the nice cameras that can go to ISO 3200!

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Oct 28, 2006 00:29 |  #14

A question to all, can you recommend and give some brief advice on a good noise program? This particular item is new to me.

I have never needed one before but since I started shooting football games that run into night, my teams parents are wondering why the 6th grade teams (night games) don't have pictures like the 4th grade (late afternoon) does.

You guys are taking some amazingly good photographs for using high ISOs. I shot at 3200 last week but the noise is so bad I don't want to print anything larger than a 4x6.
Thank you in advance. I have prints that need fixing ..... yesterday!

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Oct 30, 2006 16:26 |  #15

The two most talked about on here are Noise Ninja and Neat Image. I use both, and either or work well for me...


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