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Oct 22, 2006 13:19 |  #1

If I have the 10 second delay on, I can focus, press the shutter button all the way down and move the cam while the time ticks down, and have that thing still in focus ?


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Oct 22, 2006 13:22 |  #2

90blackcrx wrote in post #2153949 (external link)
If I have the 10 second delay on, I can focus, press the shutter button all the way down and move the cam while the time ticks down, and have that thing still in focus ?

No. You can't move the camera once you've locked focus and started the countdown. It's the same as shooting normally. Move the camera enough and you move out of the focal plane.


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Oct 22, 2006 13:32 as a reply to  @ cdifoto's post |  #3

I'm not talking about moving it a few yards or anything, just millimeters.

So if I pan over a tad, that item will become out of focus ?


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Oct 22, 2006 13:37 |  #4

Depends on your depth of field.


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Oct 22, 2006 13:38 |  #5

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Depends on your depth of field.

Why would that matter, say I focus on a candle ( direct center ) , then press the shutter all the way down. While the camera is counting down, move so the camera is to the right. Your telling me the candle won't still be in focus ?


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Oct 22, 2006 13:40 |  #6

90blackcrx wrote in post #2153980 (external link)
Why would that matter, say I focus on a candle ( direct center ) , then press the shutter all the way down. While the camera is counting down, move so the camera is to the right. Your telling me the candle won't still be in focus ?

Like I said, it depends how much depth of field you have. The more depth of field you have, the more you can get away with moving before the subject falls out of the plane of focus.

Try it with different apertures.


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Oct 22, 2006 13:50 |  #7

if the front of the lens and the plane of the candle are both parallel, then moving the camera to the side would not pose a problem, but you'd have to make sure your focal length was exactly the same


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Oct 22, 2006 13:54 |  #8

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if the front of the lens and the plane of the candle are both parallel, then moving the camera to the side would not pose a problem, but you'd have to make sure your focal length was exactly the same

Well I would be on a tripod


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Oct 22, 2006 17:24 |  #9

I can't figure out why you would want to move the camera/tripod during the countdown?



  
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Oct 22, 2006 18:17 |  #10

Dorman wrote in post #2154732 (external link)
I can't figure out why you would want to move the camera/tripod during the countdown?

Easier to do this, with my finger off the shutter button.


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Oct 22, 2006 18:22 |  #11

If you are using the focus, recompose, shoot, method on your tripod with your kit lens, chances are that you aren't going to shift your shutter plane enough to effect focus. Wide open, on a fast lens, possibly. But I doubt it with your kit lens. If you want to make sure, why not compose your shot correctly ahead of time, using an off-center focus point.




  
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Oct 22, 2006 18:31 |  #12

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I actually use this trick now and then, depending on my subject...

If I don't want to switch from center-point AF, I will focus with the center on what I want exactly in focus, then rotate the camera to compose... Here's an example... (Not the greatest, just quick example).

Center focus - Normal:
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Notice how in the first one, the DOF is shallow enough that I can't get everything in focus, so only the middle is good. I didn't like the effect, so I decided I wanted to put the graves closest to me in focus, and let the DOF fade towards the back.

The technique works well if you don't have an AF point where you want to position your subject. You just have to be careful, because if you move the camera too much, you will end up with an OOF image.

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Oct 22, 2006 18:32 |  #13

Having said the above, I would still recommend composing your shot first, then not changing it. If you are trying to take a picture of a candle, you might want to just manually focus on it.


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Oct 22, 2006 22:00 |  #14

If I understand it correctly, you are using the timer because you do not want to have to keep the shutter button held down halfway to keep focus locked while recomposing the shot? There are two easier solutions:

OPTION ONE:

Use Custom Function 4 (CFn-4) to switch focusing functions to the * button. This way you would press the * button to focus (instead of pressing the shutter button halfway), release it to lock focus, recompose (holding no buttons), then just press the shutter button to take your picture without it effecting your previously locked focus.

For more details on using CFn-4 see this thread:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=46965

OPTION TWO:

After locking focus release the shutter button, switch the lens to manual focus, recompose, then shoot. Because auto focus has been disabled focus will be locked where you had previously set it.

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