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Oct 26, 2006 19:27 |  #16

I wanna know all the details! lol brand wattage...lol I will definetly have to TRY to make one in the near future.


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Oct 26, 2006 19:37 as a reply to  @ post 2173372 |  #17

A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.


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Oct 26, 2006 20:14 |  #18

D. Craig Flory wrote in post #2174299 (external link)
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.

Ouch, now thats just vicious :) As far as looking our worst, I beg to differ, as would photographers like Paul Buceta and Ric Diaz (especially), who do unreal ring light work. Not to mention that the ring light is a major piece of equipment used in fashion photography, and one that is making a large comeback. There are different types of ring lights, some built for macro, some for fashion, I recommend reading up on a product before bashing the hell out of it :)

As for catchlights, some love it, some hate it, just like any other style of photography. If we all shot the exact same way what a boring world this place would be. I happen to like it, as with many other people, and I will continue to use it, along with some of the best photographers out there.

As for the rest of you that asked questions about the bulbs, I am currently using Sylvania 75W Daylight balanced light bulbs. If you do build a ringlight like mine you are going to need fast lenses. The 75W bulbs give me about 1/60th at f/2.8 but I love the shallow DOF look that it gives, so really the wattage of the bulbs is all about how much DOF you want in your pictures. Keep that in consideration.


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Oct 27, 2006 00:18 |  #19

Love the lighting!


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Oct 27, 2006 00:50 |  #20

D. Craig Flory wrote in post #2174299 (external link)
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.

Ouch....

I do not agree with that statement completely. While I think you're right that it can cause no direction to the light, I do think that a ring light makes an interesting catch light. Strobes still could be used to give direction to the light. I think that's why a lot of people have the ring light on a dimmer, so they can control it's brightness vs. the main strobes. The ring light is actually my favorite style of catch light at the moment. Oh well, it's all just an opinion anyways. It just seems that there's only two camps to the ring catch light. You love it or hate it.


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Oct 27, 2006 01:12 |  #21

Excellen shot! The focus is perfect, the effect created by the ring light fits the theme of the picture, (I love the chains) and your expression/pose is... awesome! Definately one for the portfolio!



  
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Oct 27, 2006 01:19 |  #22

LOVE IT.. i want to try and build it


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Oct 27, 2006 01:44 |  #23

D. Craig Flory wrote in post #2174299 (external link)
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.

I disagree completely


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Oct 27, 2006 02:05 |  #24

n.e.photo wrote in post #2174424 (external link)
As for the rest of you that asked questions about the bulbs, I am currently using Sylvania 75W Daylight balanced light bulbs. If you do build a ringlight like mine you are going to need fast lenses. The 75W bulbs give me about 1/60th at f/2.8 but I love the shallow DOF look that it gives, so really the wattage of the bulbs is all about how much DOF you want in your pictures. Keep that in consideration.

Thank you! So I guess if we wanted more DOF we could pop in some of those 3 step bulbs with different brightnesses if we are cheap. I got all kinds of ideas running through my head at the moment. Thanks for opening ANOTHER door into lighting.


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Oct 27, 2006 02:18 |  #25

I love it! The catchlights give you an almost devilish look :D So are they just houselight bulbs? What is the diameter of the ring that your model is looking through?


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Oct 27, 2006 07:28 as a reply to  @ elise1030's post |  #26

Hmmm, aacmckay made a very good point. If this was used, in addition to other lights, I may like it. As a main light source, I don't like it but would be very interested in seeing results on portraits with a key light in addition to the ring light.


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Oct 27, 2006 13:08 |  #27

Great shot and composition


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Oct 27, 2006 14:45 |  #28

D. Craig Flory wrote in post #2174299 (external link)
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.

That's completely opinionated.




  
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Oct 27, 2006 16:01 as a reply to  @ Crashoran's post |  #29

I'd have to say that's the opinion of almost all pro portrait photographers. I can't speak for fashion photographers. As I said ... I'd like to see results with it along with a key light.


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Oct 27, 2006 16:43 |  #30

Well i'm no professional, but I love the picture


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