Hi i have got a new 400mm 5.6 , i have tried to photograph this buzzard, i am using f5.6 and 1/60 on a tripod with remote release. still getting blurred shots
any ideas anyone??
jerrythesnake Senior Member 565 posts Joined Feb 2005 More info | Oct 27, 2006 17:08 | #1 Hi i have got a new 400mm 5.6 , i have tried to photograph this buzzard, i am using f5.6 and 1/60 on a tripod with remote release. still getting blurred shots http://www.pbase.com/jerrythesnake
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mrclark321 Noinker 7,537 posts Likes: 23 Joined Mar 2005 Location: .... with a long history More info | Oct 27, 2006 17:13 | #2 Crank up the ISO so you can get a faster shutter speed. 1/60 at 400mm is too slow of a shutter speed. Sony A7R3 & A7R4
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Janika Goldmember 1,060 posts Joined Sep 2006 Location: Ontario, CA More info | Oct 27, 2006 17:14 | #3 That shutter speed seems to be low, even on a tripod. Birds move around and wind can effect stability. (John) CANON A590 iS - EOS 50D - EF 400mm f/5.6 L USM - EF 50 f/1.8 II - Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 XR Di II - Velbon Sherpa pro - SIGMA DG500-ST
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Billginthekeys Billy the kid 7,359 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Islamorada, FL More info | Oct 27, 2006 22:22 | #4 as mentioned, tripod or not, at a low shutter speed if the bird moves, theres going to be blur. so definitly crank up the ISO to get more acceptable shutter speed. Mr. the Kid.
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JaGWiRE Goldmember 3,859 posts Joined Sep 2006 More info | BTW, I would personally think that a monopod would be much more suited for birding, when you consider that birds are moving and you'll be tracking them and moving too, a tripod seems like a pain. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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Billginthekeys Billy the kid 7,359 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Islamorada, FL More info | Oct 27, 2006 22:29 | #6 JaGWiRE wrote in post #2180111 BTW, I would personally think that a monopod would be much more suited for birding, when you consider that birds are moving and you'll be tracking them and moving too, a tripod seems like a pain. yes but at that slow of shutter speeds with poor light you need a tripod to get shots. every pro birder out there uses a sturdy CF tripod and a gimbal type ballhead on their big primes. Mr. the Kid.
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Oct 27, 2006 22:31 | #7 I use my 400 f/5.6 a bunch for birding. I also add a 1.4X to it sometimes. I use it handheld but with a minimum speed of 1/1000. Flickr - Life of David
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liquidstone insane Bird photographer 1,089 posts Likes: 115 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Oct 27, 2006 22:33 | #8 jerrythesnake wrote in post #2179021 Hi i have got a new 400mm 5.6 , i have tried to photograph this buzzard, i am using f5.6 and 1/60 on a tripod with remote release. still getting blurred shots any ideas anyone??On a windless day and with a still bird, 1/60 sec is fast enough on a tripod with RS (I've shot 800 mm and 0.8 sec at birds). Romy Ocon, Philippine Wild Birds
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JaGWiRE Goldmember 3,859 posts Joined Sep 2006 More info | Oct 27, 2006 22:44 | #9 Billginthekeys wrote in post #2180119 yes but at that slow of shutter speeds with poor light you need a tripod to get shots. every pro birder out there uses a sturdy CF tripod and a gimbal type ballhead on their big primes. Well, I supose if a bird is being very still you could do with a slower shutter speed, or if it's moving very slow. But for in flight shots I'de be surprised if you could get anywhere with slow shutter speeds. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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Billginthekeys Billy the kid 7,359 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Islamorada, FL More info | Oct 27, 2006 23:14 | #10 JaGWiRE wrote in post #2180169 Well, I supose if a bird is being very still you could do with a slower shutter speed, or if it's moving very slow. But for in flight shots I'de be surprised if you could get anywhere with slow shutter speeds. no, you pretty much cant. but the tripods offer better support for prolonged use on big primes. of course for the 400 5.6 typically its meant to be handheld. Mr. the Kid.
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JaGWiRE Goldmember 3,859 posts Joined Sep 2006 More info | Oct 27, 2006 23:21 | #11 Billginthekeys wrote in post #2180258 no, you pretty much cant. but the tripods offer better support for prolonged use on big primes. of course for the 400 5.6 typically its meant to be handheld. Ah, for sure. I think it'de be pretty painful to use the 500 or 600 on a monopod for more then a short period of time. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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LarryWeinman Goldmember 1,438 posts Likes: 66 Joined Jul 2006 More info | Oct 28, 2006 12:17 | #12 There is a rule of thumb for hand held shots that says your shutter speed should be at least equal to your focal length or in your case it would be 1/500th of a second for a 400mm lens. If you are using a crop body you are essentially shooting a 640mm lens so your shutter speed should be more like 1/1000. I know you are shooting with a tripod and remote release but even a slight wind can shake the tripod enough to create a problem. As previously mentioned in other posts there could also be a problem with bird movement or feather movement caused by a breeze. This is a very busy scene in your photo and to my eye it looks like the camera might have focused more on the post to the right of the bird then the bird itself. Watch where your auto-focus points are going when you focus and if need be adjust the focus manually. Depth of field at f 5.6 is just inches so you have to be right on for a sharp photo. This is one of Canons sharpest telephotos. Try running some tests on a stationary object. If you still have problems send it back to Canon for re-calibration. 7D Mark II 6D 100mm f 2.8 macro 180mm f 3.5 macro, MP-E-65 300mm f 2.8 500mm f4 Tokina 10-17mm fisheye 10-22mm 17-55mm 24-105mm 70-300mm 70-200 f 2.8 Mk II 100-400mm Mk II 1.4 TCIII 2X TCIII 580EX II 430 EX II MT 24 EX Sigma 150-600
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morehtml Goldmember 2,987 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Murfreesboro, TN More info | Oct 28, 2006 12:36 | #13 Damn small but that looks like a hawk and not a buzzard. ---------------
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ed2day Senior Member 633 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO More info | Oct 28, 2006 21:21 | #14 You don't say what tripod you are using, but at 1/60 and 400 mm outdoors it better be a pretty decent tripod.
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PetKal Cream of the Crop 11,141 posts Likes: 5 Joined Sep 2005 Location: Nizza, Italia More info | Oct 28, 2006 22:23 | #15 liquidstone wrote in post #2180134 On a windless day and with a still bird, 1/60 sec is fast enough on a tripod with RS (I've shot 800 mm and 0.8 sec at birds). Otherwise, in less than ideal conditions (with wind and subject motion), I agree with others that you need a faster shutter speed. Romy
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