Love hate relationship, I love the focal length and hate the lens.
Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 05, 2011 17:52 | #3526 Love hate relationship, I love the focal length and hate the lens. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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Feb 05, 2011 18:24 | #3527 kind of miss using this lens, but i need to stop being so lazy and sell this lens as i dont have a camera that works with it. Canon EOS-1D Mark II N | Sony Alpha NEX-6 | Canon EOS 5D | Canon EOS 6D | Canon EOS 6D Mark II | EF 70-200mm 1:2.8 L USM | EF 24-70mm 1:2.8 L USM | EF 17-40mm 1:4 L USM | EF 50mm 1:1.8 STM | EF 40mm 1:2.8 STM | EF 35mm 1:2 IS USM | EF 24-105mm 1:4 L IS USM | 580EX II
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Feb 05, 2011 19:00 | #3528 Saxi wrote in post #11784069 Love hate relationship, I love the focal length and hate the lens. What do you hate about the lens? Ron...... Canon 70D|Canon 50D|Canon EF 50mm F1.8|Canon EF 35-135mm F4-5.6|Canon EF-S 10-22mm F3.5-4.5|Canon EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS|Canon EF "L" 100mm Macro F2.8|Canon EF "L" 70-200mm F2.8 IS|Canon EF "L" 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 IS|Canon 550EX Flash Unit|
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 05, 2011 19:21 | #3529 rclester wrote in post #11784438 What do you hate about the lens? It is a vacuum with dust (inside where I can't clean it). The image quality is no where as good as many praise this lens of having, night and day the IQ with this and my 70-200 f/4 IS L. I know it isn't a L but many claim it has IQ of an L. It is as expensive as an L lens. I get some good shots with this lens, but many times I am disappointed. I would much rather have a 70-200 f/4 IS L equivalent for this focal length on a crop. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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jb1911 Senior Member 492 posts Joined May 2010 Location: Chicago area More info | Feb 05, 2011 19:45 | #3530 Saxi wrote in post #11784566 It is a vacuum with dust (inside where I can't clean it). The image quality is no where as good as many praise this lens of having, night and day the IQ with this and my 70-200 f/4 IS L. I know it isn't a L but many claim it has IQ of an L. It is as expensive as an L lens. I get some good shots with this lens, but many times I am disappointed. I would much rather have a 70-200 f/4 IS L equivalent for this focal length on a crop. When I first decided to buy my first non-kit lens for my 50D, I walked into the store (wanted to try them out before buying them, otherwise would just order from Andorama or Amazon) to buy the 17-55 f/2.8 and the 70-200 f/2.8 IS L. I wanted only the best (primarily at the time fixed aperture and image quality, but I didn't know much at the time) lenses in the focal lengths I use most often. I only wanted 2-3 lenses total as I wasn't going to carry tons of lenses and I don't shoot for money. It was clear these two lenses were the best choice. Update: Also, the build quality sucks, I'm just waiting for my AF to die on it as it seems to be a common problem with this lens. It is far to expensive for what it is. When I shoot the 70-200, I am usually happy with results and sometimes impressed. When I shoot the 17-55, I am usually disappointed with the results and sometimes happy. Keep in mind, I shoot in bad conditions, rarely have anything better than a 580EX II, it is usually fixed on camera because I am solo shooting my son being a 3 year old boy and I can't setup anything. Many times I am at 3200 ISO (many times I should be 6400 but opt for 3200 in favor of noise but risk more blurred). Studio conditions, I've had fairly good luck with the 17-55, but in the real life conditions I shoot it is "meh". I can attest that some of it is me, I am by no means "pro" but I am not ignorant either. UPDATE: Forgot to mention, I'm just waiting for the AF system to die on it as it seems to be common with this lens, it is far to expensive for what it is. Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority opinion. 1% of people owning this lens feel this way. 7D/BG-E7 - 580EXII - EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM - EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM - EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM - in a Domke F-2RW
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District_History_Fan Goldmember 2,286 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2008 More info | Feb 05, 2011 19:49 | #3531 Saxi wrote in post #11784566 It is a vacuum with dust (inside where I can't clean it). The image quality is no where as good as many praise this lens of having, night and day the IQ with this and my 70-200 f/4 IS L. You must have a bad lens. My 17-55 provides dang near the same great IQ as my 70-200 f/4L IS.
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 05, 2011 20:57 | #3532 jb1911 wrote in post #11784698 Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority opinion. 1% of people owning this lens feel this way. Really? Can I see the results of your poll with 100+ people? 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 05, 2011 20:58 | #3533 District_History_Fan wrote in post #11784723 You must have a bad lens. My 17-55 provides dang near the same great IQ as my 70-200 f/4L IS. No where near for me, color, contrast, IQ. I've sent it to Canon a while ago for cleaning and adjustment but still nothing special. It isn't as bad as a kit lens, but when I shoot with my 70-200 f/4 IS L, I notice a huge difference. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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orbitechgr Goldmember 1,075 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jul 2010 More info | Comparing a telephoto lens to a wideangle->standard/normal lens does not make any real sense imho. They don't have anywhere near the same focal range and they are not intended for the same work.
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jb1911 Senior Member 492 posts Joined May 2010 Location: Chicago area More info | Feb 06, 2011 08:42 | #3535 Saxi wrote in post #11785107 Really? Can I see the results of your poll with 100+ people? Let's see ... I know it's here somewhere ... oh yeah, it says "if you don't like it, sell it and buy something else instead of **** about it to a bunch of camera geeks on the internet." 7D/BG-E7 - 580EXII - EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM - EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM - EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM - in a Domke F-2RW
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keyframe14 Goldmember 1,369 posts Likes: 86 Joined Mar 2009 Location: Orlando, FL More info | Feb 06, 2011 09:04 | #3536 Saxi wrote in post #11784566 It is a vacuum with dust (inside where I can't clean it). The image quality is no where as good as many praise this lens of having, night and day the IQ with this and my 70-200 f/4 IS L. I know it isn't a L but many claim it has IQ of an L. It is as expensive as an L lens. I get some good shots with this lens, but many times I am disappointed. I would much rather have a 70-200 f/4 IS L equivalent for this focal length on a crop. When I first decided to buy my first non-kit lens for my 50D, I walked into the store (wanted to try them out before buying them, otherwise would just order from Andorama or Amazon) to buy the 17-55 f/2.8 and the 70-200 f/2.8 IS L. I wanted only the best (primarily at the time fixed aperture and image quality, but I didn't know much at the time) lenses in the focal lengths I use most often. I only wanted 2-3 lenses total as I wasn't going to carry tons of lenses and I don't shoot for money. It was clear these two lenses were the best choice. Update: Also, the build quality sucks, I'm just waiting for my AF to die on it as it seems to be a common problem with this lens. It is far to expensive for what it is. When I shoot the 70-200, I am usually happy with results and sometimes impressed. When I shoot the 17-55, I am usually disappointed with the results and sometimes happy. Keep in mind, I shoot in bad conditions, rarely have anything better than a 580EX II, it is usually fixed on camera because I am solo shooting my son being a 3 year old boy and I can't setup anything. Many times I am at 3200 ISO (many times I should be 6400 but opt for 3200 in favor of noise but risk more blurred). Studio conditions, I've had fairly good luck with the 17-55, but in the real life conditions I shoot it is "meh". I can attest that some of it is me, I am by no means "pro" but I am not ignorant either. UPDATE: Forgot to mention, I'm just waiting for the AF system to die on it as it seems to be common with this lens, it is far to expensive for what it is. Never have had any dust problems in 1 1/2 years I owned this lens, also no AF or IS problems and I shoot quite a lot. I sold it here and this is how it looks like after 1 1/2" years of ownership. Never send it to canon , never clean it inside.
You said that is as expensive as an L lens, now tell me what L lens in this range with 2.8 and IS cost $1k? NONE, the first close in range is 24-70mm but it doesn't have IS which would add double in price, look at the price difference between 70-200 f4 and same IS version, or 2.8 So bottom line you could say that is half of the price of an L lens. You also said that you shoot in bad condition, then L lenses is the right choice for you, none of the EF-s lenses are sealed and weather proof so you might have problems with any non L lens. Just do youself a favor and trade ur EF-s with an L.. EF-s lenses are not design for that.If they would they wouldn't be so cheap. Facebook
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 06, 2011 10:46 | #3537 jb1911 wrote in post #11787253 Let's see ... I know it's here somewhere ... oh yeah, it says "if you don't like it, sell it and buy something else instead of **** about it to a bunch of camera geeks on the internet." Sorry, I couldn't help myself.:o No one is ****, I was asked why and I said so. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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I have several lenses. Two of them are "L's", but this is my most used lens. It pretty much stays on one of my camera bodies, and the lens changes are made on the other body. I also have two EF-S lenses. This one and the 10-22mm. Both are expensive, but have near "L" quality glass. They both give me great results. They do not have "L" construction though; so I don't use them in rain or blowing sand. I do use them in rough areas though, such as the deserts of Utah & Arizona and have never had a problem with either one of them. I think this is a wonderful lens. If I could only have one lens for a camera with an APS-C size sensor, this is the one I would have. Ron...... Canon 70D|Canon 50D|Canon EF 50mm F1.8|Canon EF 35-135mm F4-5.6|Canon EF-S 10-22mm F3.5-4.5|Canon EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS|Canon EF "L" 100mm Macro F2.8|Canon EF "L" 70-200mm F2.8 IS|Canon EF "L" 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 IS|Canon 550EX Flash Unit|
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Feb 06, 2011 11:04 | #3539 rclester wrote in post #11787899 I have several lenses. Two of them are "L's", but this is my most used lens. It pretty much stays on one of my camera bodies, and the lens changes are made on the other body. I also have two EF-S lenses. This one and the 10-22mm. Both are expensive, but have near "L" quality glass. They both give me great results. They do not have "L" construction though; so I don't use them in rain or blowing sand. I do use them in rough areas though, such as the deserts of Utah & Arizona and have never had a problem with either one of them. I think this is a wonderful lens. If I could only have one lens for a camera with an APS-C size sensor, this is the one I would have. By far my most used lens as well because of the focal length. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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tc4canon Member 59 posts Joined Jan 2011 More info | Feb 06, 2011 12:36 | #3540 This lens is so sharp.
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