5D VS 1DMKII Preferences

Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #2221530
3fps just isn't enough for fast moving things, a lot of the time. That's all. As long as you have nice lenses, though, the AF is more than adequate for just about anything.

Maybe i'm missing somthing, but I don't understand all this hoopla about FPS. I rarely shoot machine gun sequences, I time out my photos, and get the look I want. I find that, no matter how fast your camera is, a lot of the time you are still going to miss the shot you want, but you'll get it a split second before, and a split second after.

So, FPS aside, what else makes the 5D a poor choice for sports?

BiikeMike wrote in post #2222333
Maybe i'm missing somthing, but I don't understand all this hoopla about FPS. I rarely shoot machine gun sequences, I time out my photos, and get the look I want. I find that, no matter how fast your camera is, a lot of the time you are still going to miss the shot you want, but you'll get it a split second before, and a split second after.

So, FPS aside, what else makes the 5D a poor choice for sports?

I don't think you can put FPS aside, where sports are concerned...everything in sports shooting is split second timing...if the camera is slow, it doesn't matter how well you frame it. The 5D is a fantastic camera but it is not a sports/action cam.

grego wrote in post #2222022
You'll lose some reach, but that's about all.

And the reach you lose isn't completely lost anyway because of the higher resolution of the 5D that allows you to crop.

Permagrin wrote in post #2222345
I don't think you can put FPS aside, where sports are concerned...everything in sports shooting is split second timing...if the camera is slow, it doesn't matter how well you frame it. The 5D is a fantastic camera but it is not a sports/action cam.

OK, maybe I am interperting FPS wrong. I see it as if you hold the shutter, it will take more pictures in a second, but if you take a single shot, it does not matter. Am I wrong? does the FPS rating have to do with shutter lag as well?

I just don't see how FPS matters if you only want to take one shot. For example.... When I am shooting mountain bikers dirt jumping, I follow them into the jump, pre-focus, and when they throw their trick, I click. One shot. This is with my 10D, which only has 4FPS, but it doesnt matter to me, because I never take machine gun shots.

Someone please explain to me if I am misinterperting what FPS actually means.

Thanks

BiikeMike wrote in post #2222540
Someone please explain to me if I am misinterperting what FPS actually means.

You're interpreting it right. With 8.5 shots per second, you get several different shots of the bike in all the different phases of its movement and you pick the best one.

edit: the 5d's buffer allows for 17 shots in a row. You get a few more (22) with the 1D Mark II N (assuming you shoot RAW) Of course you get to 22 a lot faster at 8.5 FPS than 3 FPS

montreal wrote in post #2222376
And the reach you lose isn't completely lost anyway because of the higher resolution of the 5D that allows you to crop.

Technically, yes that's right. I'd still prefer more detail over having to crop into the picture to get more pulled out, in a case like that.

montreal wrote in post #2222580
You're interpreting it right. With 8.5 shots per second, you get several different shots of the bike in all the different phases of its movement and you pick the best one.

edit: the 5d's buffer allows for 17 shots in a row. You get a few more (22) with the 1D Mark II N (assuming you shoot RAW) Of course you get to 22 a lot faster at 8.5 FPS than 3 FPS

OK, so I'm still confused why if I'm shooting in ONE SHOT mode, the 5D does not make a good sports camera.......?

BiikeMike wrote in post #2223936
OK, so I'm still confused why if I'm shooting in ONE SHOT mode, the 5D does not make a good sports camera.......?

I don't think anyone said that. It's just that sports shooters usually prefer having the option to shoot fast bursts of shots.

If you want the 5D just get it. Simple.

grego wrote in post #2223007
Technically, yes that's right. I'd still prefer more detail over having to crop into the picture to get more pulled out, in a case like that.

I agree with you. That's why I'll still keep my 300D when I get the 5D. But for someone who rarely needs the reach and who wants to get only the 5D, cropping is an option to consider.

The only other thing (already mentioned) would be weather sealing... but you can always get one of those gear bags to cover the camera.

The 5D might be right up your road Dan. It's lighter, easier to change settings (with your fingers) and your wife probably would find it easier to use.
Plus you'd probably find your lenses fall into a more appropriate FL range for their function.. I know it's only 0.3 more... but....

I bet the 24-105 would be kickass on a 5D.

Did I mention it's smaller and lighter??
I'd go for it Dan. I've been thinking about the 5D... the N isn't really in my mind any more.

RAitch wrote in post #2252790
The only other thing (already mentioned) would be weather sealing... but you can always get one of those gear bags to cover the camera.

The 5D might be right up your road Dan. It's lighter, easier to change settings (with your fingers) and your wife probably would find it easier to use.
Plus you'd probably find your lenses fall into a more appropriate FL range for their function.. I know it's only 0.3 more... but....

I bet the 24-105 would be kickass on a 5D.

Did I mention it's smaller and lighter??
I'd go for it Dan. I've been thinking about the 5D... the N isn't really in my mind any more.

LOL....Maybe a 100-400L instead. J/K
If I get any more injuries I might have to get a lighter camera.

The results from the 5D I have seen and reviews make it a very worthy cantidate it's just I have been spoiled by the 1D. More opinions are always welcome.

Dan

BiikeMike wrote in post #2223936
OK, so I'm still confused why if I'm shooting in ONE SHOT mode, the 5D does not make a good sports camera.......?

I agree completely with you about burst mode not being the be all and end all but having both the 1DMkII and the 5D, the D is a fraction faster when you hit the button,the 5D has a discernable lag, IMHO the auto-focus is more accurate (more keepers) and a lot of sports shots are in portrait where the second shutter button comes in handy. Taken in with the weather sealing makes the D a better sports camera than the 5D but that does not rule the 5D out. For studio work the 5D is a dream camera and with decent glass the results are far ahead of the D. They are both great pieces of kit but each has its place.

mrclark321 wrote in post #2256898
The results from the 5D I have seen and reviews make it a very worthy cantidate it's just I have been spoiled by the 1D. More opinions are always welcome.

Dan

Just get it and play with both for some time. Then you can figure out what you like better. Problem solved!! all wrapped into a nice little envilope that shows the new credit card balance.

I just traded my 5D for a 1D MK2. Haven't gotten around to testing it yet.

I did it for the speed and the weathersealing. And I got tired of sensor-cleaning... The 5D needs that often in my experience. My 20 hasn't needed cleaning in 1.5 years.

Whats with all this sensor cleaning on the 5D? I have read this a lot, how many 5D users have this problem?