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Nov 02, 2006 16:49 |  #1

Contemplating the idea of buying this filter for my 16-35 and wondering if anyone tried it. Thank you in advance.


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Nov 02, 2006 17:47 |  #2

Before you buy one, have you tried the Picture Styles on your 5D? I just got the 5D and was reading about setting the monochrome adjustments.

I also just got the same lens you do so I'm interested about using a polarizer too.


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Nov 02, 2006 18:28 |  #3

My B+W CP spends a lot of time on the 16-35, no problem. IMO a CP is a must.


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Nov 02, 2006 18:30 |  #4

B & W is the only filter of any type I will buy. I own a 77mm & 72mm circ polarizer as well as a couple of UV (MRC) filters for all of my L series Canon lenses and find ithem far superior to Hoya. IMHO you can't go wrong picking one up for your 16-35. Good luck!


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Nov 02, 2006 19:01 |  #5

Good stuff, thanks guys. One more for the knowledgeable crowd: "Kaeseman" is pretty much weather seal and, it yes/no, worth buying?


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Nov 02, 2006 19:41 |  #6

I have the kaeseman. Many say it is not worth buying but for me the price difference was negligible so I figured why not. Either way you will not be disappointed with the B&W MRC CP.


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Nov 02, 2006 20:12 |  #7

Picture Styles will not reproduce the effects of a polarizer. Saturation perhaps - but not reduction or elimination of reflections.

Heliopan and B+W are the best filters available and will work great with this lens. I have the slim version Heliopan SH-PMC on mine, using it with a 1D2N (1.3x) and don't see any vignetting. On a FF, I can't say.

Be careful on the extreme end of the polarizing effects - it gets pretty strong (and can be uneven) on super wide angles! I like it, personally. :)


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Nov 02, 2006 21:53 |  #8

Placing an order for: B+W 77 mm Kaeseman Circular Polarizer Slim Glass Filter among several other items. Thanks for sharing your experiences on this.

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Nov 03, 2006 08:58 |  #9

Just keep in mind that the Kaeseman filters are sealed at the edges for harsh environments - high humidity, freezing temperatures and dust... So you're paying for that feature. A regular CPL will do the same job, provided you don't regularly shoot in the aforementioned environments.


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Nov 03, 2006 09:31 |  #10

chancellor wrote in post #2208764 (external link)
Placing an order for: B+W 77 mm Kaeseman Circular Polarizer Slim Glass Filter among several other items. Thanks for sharing your experiences on this.

Great job! I got that same filter about a month ago for my 16-35 and it's just great. I just hate the fact it has to be slim so you have to either use that horrible lens cap that never stays on or always take your CP off when you are done. oh well, small price to pay for the improvement the polarizer can bring.

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Just keep in mind that the Kaeseman filters are sealed at the edges for harsh environments - high humidity, freezing temperatures and dust... So you're paying for that feature. A regular CPL will do the same job, provided you don't regularly shoot in the aforementioned environments.

I've also heard that Kaesemann filters have a different, higher quality polarizing "foil" that gives better colors than any other polarizer on the market.


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Nov 03, 2006 10:07 |  #11

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Great job! I got that same filter about a month ago for my 16-35 and it's just great. I just hate the fact it has to be slim so you have to either use that horrible lens cap that never stays on or always take your CP off when you are done. oh well, small price to pay for the improvement the polarizer can bring.

That's why I went with Heliopans - they have front threads. They're not the deepest and could work better with Canon caps - but work great with Tamron (and similar) caps, which is what I use... Third party cheapies. Should you go this route, I'd suggest going with real Tamron caps as they're a higher quality.

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I've also heard that Kaesemann filters have a different, higher quality polarizing "foil" that gives better colors than any other polarizer on the market.

I know it uses a different foil, as I've seen blurbs about a "mottled appearance" when looking at angular light reflections across the CPL. Not sure if it's better or worse color-wise, however. Would make for an interesting test...


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Nov 03, 2006 10:28 as a reply to  @ Double Negative's post |  #12

here's what i use. works fine with a canon cap.

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and i realize it may not be expensive enough for some of youy guys who want "the best" :D :D :D .

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Nov 03, 2006 10:34 |  #13

ed rader wrote in post #2210873 (external link)
and i realize it may not be expensive enough for some of youy guys who want "the best" :D :D :D .

These Kenko filters in particular are the same as Hoya Pro1 filters. Nothing wrong with them at all, they're good filters!

But for $10-15 more you get much better glass and a brass frame that doesn't bind in the filter threads... Heliopan and B+W.

I guess you get what you pay for. ;)


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Nov 03, 2006 10:43 |  #14

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These Kenko filters in particular are the same as Hoya Pro1 filters. Nothing wrong with them at all, they're good filters!

But for $10-15 more you get much better glass and a brass frame that doesn't bind in the filter threads... Heliopan and B+W.

I guess you get what you pay for. ;)

yes. if you want "the best" you must always spend "the most" .

please excuse me while i go and unbind my cheap non-brass filter :D :D :D .

can you please explain "much better glass" or better yet show me some examples of how your CPs are better?

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Nov 03, 2006 10:52 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #2210940 (external link)
yes. if you want "the best" you must always spend "the most" .

please excuse me while i go and unbind my cheap non-brass filter :D :D :D .

can you please explain "much better glass" or better yet show me some examples of how your CPs are better?

I'm just busting chops, Ed.

The Heliopan and B+W filters use Schott glass, the same stuff that goes into Zeiss lenses. If it's good enough for Zeiss, I suppose I can live with it. :D


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