Water Polo 1st RAW Game

Turnerzdad wrote in post #2217923
The 3rd one is really fabulous as well!

Excellent shots. How close are you when taking these?

Most the time about 25 to 40', I work the whole pool trying not get hit with the ball. I was at one game shooting with one other photographer when his 20D with a 70-200 2.8L took a direct hit and sent the whole rig to the deck, He picked up the pieces and left

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Webmonkey

I shoot at a large private school in the uk and I shoot all types of sports including water polo and swimming . I am working with an indoor pool depending on the light I am wide open with a 70-200 2.8 giving me a max of 250th @ 1600 sometimes H (3200) . I have never thought of using my flash in there , as I have a problem with condesation . It is normally winter time follow hockey or rugby when the camera and lense are really cold and will take at least 15-20 mins to aclimatise .

Do you think the flash would take the condensation with out causing damage . I am not too concerned about the camera and lens they seem fine .

I am hoping to get the 300 2.8 this year as funds didn't allow last year , a new car beat off the lens as a priority.

Your shots are stunning and the smaller aperature doesn't cause a problem with the water as the backgound and as you said it gives you a lot more tollerance and saleable shots .

Can I ask how you set up your flash on the shots you showed me .

I have a problem with showing the images online because of the type of people I shoot which is a shame .

Thanks

Roy
Thanks

Otta

Image post #16
Image taken as the pool lights where warming up.
Manual, 1600th, f2.8, ISO 1600, AF AI Servo,
580 ETTL High Speed sync +1/3
Spot Metering mode
AdobeRGB RAW
WB: Flash
Saturation: +1
Sharpness: 3
Contrast: +1

Image Post #7 only change was 580EX ETTL HSS +0, and about 10 more feet away.

I put a zip-lock bag over the flash on days that it rains or high condensation with rubber bands. The 580EX makes a big impact in “High Speed Sync” as you can see my shutter was at 1600th allowing me to still stop the action. After a test fire I upped the flash output +1/3.

I should have lowered my ISO to about 1000 and my shutter to, to get less noise, and a better print.

Thanks

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GREAT!!!! GREAT!!!! GREAT shots!

WebMonkey wrote in post #2215821
Do you thing the image would be enhanced if I remove the water drops from the shooter face. It looks like milk to me.

Great captures! I really like them all. I would like to see the image without the water drops. IMO it just may enhance the photo.

Cheers

These are all first rate! I hope the parents realize what good shots they get to buy!

Personally I would say raw is overkill with such conditions as you had, but I'm not going to try to change your mind. It's your decision
Another thing... As someone suggested already, try to shoot with wider open lens. I don't mean f2.8, but something like f3.5 would be fine. You would get even a bit higher speed, you can lower iso even a bit more (even though iso400 is great already) and with this you get those nice sharp water drops splashing around. Otherwise you have two really great shoots here.

primoz wrote in post #2233136
Personally I would say raw is overkill with such conditions as you had, but I'm not going to try to change your mind. It's your decision
Another thing... As someone suggested already, try to shoot with wider open lens. I don't mean f2.8, but something like f3.5 would be fine. You would get even a bit higher speed, you can lower iso even a bit more (even though iso400 is great already) and with this you get those nice sharp water drops splashing around. Otherwise you have two really great shoots here.

With the night shots, I love having the choice RAW gives me with the White Balance and even with full sun; my color is changing with the water reflections all the time. I do like the idea of less noise then 400 give me, and shooting lower F# just incase I need to crop in tighter.

Steve