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Nov 06, 2006 20:41 |  #1

i ended up getting 3 420ex flashes (2 used) and an ST-E2 transmitter. i got two photek 60" umbrellas. my backdrop stand just delivered tonight. here's my results and some thoughts.

1. a 9'x20' muslin backdrop is HUGE. perhaps for 3/4 shots something 5x7 would be perfect. but oh well.

2. all the while i've been waiting to test this out (9 months or so, getting 1 piece at a time), i've been studying studio flashes. of course the big question was would a 420ex be able to give any light? then how powerful of a strobe do you need?

the GN on the 420ex is 23 meters at iso100 with a 24mm zoom setting, this is when the flash is off-camera (it auto zooms to a 24mm setting). the shot you see here had the apex of the umbrella 7ft from the stool/me. i was bouncing the flash into the umbrella (not shoot - through). the umbrella has a white reflective surface (not silver). for the shots i did, i was able to dial in +2 stop FEC, ended up using +1 stop for this shot. my iso was 100 and f-stop 4.5.

also, i used the ratio setting on the ST-E2 set at 8:1, which i think is a 2:1 ratio in normal studio strobes?

my conclusion is, it's very possible to get at least a 1 person portrait, probably full length , with a couple of 420ex flashes and still have a little headroom for FEC. oh, i used the 3rd 420ex on the floor by the stool to light up the background.

for me, shooting for fun, this is a pretty neat thing to do :)

oh, one more conclusion. from all the reading i've done on how powerful of a strobe one needs, i think it really comes down to how far away you want your strobes from your subject and what f-stop you need to get a proper depth of field. i think this means that something like a couple of $150-$200 strobes would work well for 1-2 person portraits. i'll bet those alien bees for $225 would be HUGELY enough :)

i'm not going to change, at least not now. but hopefully this post will give people some ideas in their struggle for knowledge on lighting.




  
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Nov 06, 2006 21:08 |  #2

Looks pretty good to me!
I have used flash units shooting into umbrellas and understand the limitations. As you work through these limitations you learn quite a bit about lighting that will be helpful if/when you graduate to a pro quality setup.

60 inch umbrellas might be larger than optimum for portraits. 42 inch or thereabouts can be placed closer to the subject, making more efficient use of the limited light you have.


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Nov 06, 2006 21:31 as a reply to  @ Curtis N's post |  #3

thanks. i really am looking forward to learning with this setup. granted i can't get away from the ETTL, but playing with things like distances from subject to lights, subject to background, f-stop and even some ratio settings i think is going to make for fun times this winter. i would like to get some of those colored gels for the background flash too, that's why i ordered a gray muslin.




  
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