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Nov 07, 2006 16:35 as a reply to  @ post 2231032 |  #16

Which is fine with controlled lighting, and if the subjects don't overlap. Sometimes you can't cut and paste though...

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Nov 07, 2006 16:37 |  #17

so how did you do that then ?


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Nov 07, 2006 16:40 |  #18

whoa, cool. are those planes? great idea


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Nov 07, 2006 16:44 as a reply to  @ Stavhp's post |  #19

Film (4x5 inch large format)... :) Very easy -- just a straight up multiple exposure, got it developed, and scanned it.

Yeah, they're airplanes leaving Logan airport in Boston.

The film one looks softer, but it's because it's so grossly reduced in size for web sharing compared with the original scan (I've made a 48x60 inch print of it, and it's exceptionally sharp at that size).

I took a similar shot on my 300D a while before, seen below.

I pasted the images on top of one another, used Lighten blending mode (so that the light trails would always be carried through), then masked the background out of all the layers except for the one that looked best. It took hours to do all that masking.

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Nov 07, 2006 16:49 |  #20

^^^ That kind of shot is easier to do with film tbh. Probably the only reason I can see to make me keep my EOS30.


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Nov 07, 2006 16:52 |  #21

Much easier with film.

Which is great for anachronystic losers like me who love to use film.

But I'd imagine it's well within Canon's capabilities to make a DSLR that can do it too.


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Nov 07, 2006 17:04 |  #22

DrPablo wrote in post #2231263 (external link)
Much easier with film.

Which is great for anachronystic losers like me who love to use film.

But I'd imagine it's well within Canon's capabilities to make a DSLR that can do it too.

I dunno, when the sensor takes a photo, it's converted to 1 and 0 in jpeg/RAW. A completed file basically. By doing a multiple exposure, you are basically not finishing with that shot yet as they are more information to add. The shutter basically shuts indefinitely until the next shot, what does happen with that half taken first shot?


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Nov 07, 2006 17:27 |  #23

Raymond Lin wrote in post #2231318 (external link)
I dunno, when the sensor takes a photo, it's converted to 1 and 0 in jpeg/RAW. A completed file basically. By doing a multiple exposure, you are basically not finishing with that shot yet as they are more information to add. The shutter basically shuts indefinitely until the next shot, what does happen with that half taken first shot?

You'd need to designate it as a multiple exposure first in order to prevent that pixel information from being 'finalized' as you describe.

But that's not so different than film -- I mean you need to calculate such that your final image is fully exposed, not each individual exposure.


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Nov 07, 2006 17:37 |  #24

Some company called Nikon makes digital SLR cameras that support multiple exposures.

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Nov 07, 2006 17:44 |  #25

The new Pentax K10D will as well.

Will they do multiple exposures of all sorts, or only double exposures?


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Nov 07, 2006 17:47 |  #26

It is possible on a DSLR camera ;)
Here is a quick shot I just took of one Television with 4 different exposures on one file. No software cut and paste was done.


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It is done with a trick I learned on film (remember that old stuff? ??? ), by just putting the camera on B mode and just put the lens cap on then off move the camera and then the lens cap on and off as many times as needed :)
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Nov 07, 2006 17:49 |  #27

yes but thats with one bright subject on a dark background, such a meathod wouldnt do a thing for landscapes.


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Nov 07, 2006 17:55 |  #28

John_B wrote in post #2231539 (external link)
It is done with a trick I learned on film (remember that old stuff? ??? ), by just putting the camera on B mode and just put the lens cap on then off move the camera and then the lens cap on and off as many times as needed :)

That's exactly the technique I used on my first light trail shot above. I just covered the lens with the lens cap while waiting for the subsequent airplane to lift off. Being a large format lens I'd have had to recock and retrip the shutter for each exposure, and that would have made me more likely to accidentally move the camera.

With your shot, John, you could also do it with four separate exposures, paste them as layers, and use Lighten blending.

But as said your technique won't work if you're trying to shoot a picture of someone standing in 3 different places in front of a static background.

For this shot, for instance, I needed to use straight cut/paste/mask to get it to look right, even though the camera was rock steady on a tripod for all four exposures.

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Nov 07, 2006 18:07 |  #29

The lens cap trick is clever be isn't there is a huge risk of moving the camera as you are actually touching and attaching a lens cap and then taking it off?


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Nov 07, 2006 18:12 |  #30

Raymond Lin wrote in post #2231608 (external link)
The lens cap trick is clever be isn't there is a huge risk of moving the camera as you are actually touching and attaching a lens cap and then taking it off?

which is why i feel its only useful for situations subjects where you want to reposition the camera anyway.


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