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Nov 10, 2006 15:19 |  #46

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In my own opinion they aren't that much different.

I'd agree with that assessment. The 10D's grip defintely felt better. It had more gripable area on the grip. And the inside was nicer for slipping in batteries.


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Nov 10, 2006 15:28 |  #47

I have the 350d, and an older 10d...

Use them on my 70-200 f2.8L IS and my 300 f2.8 L... Mainly for sports... As you can see, went for glass first, and bodies will get the upgrade when i can afford them, 1d Mark2 N.

Anyway, back to the question: Swings and roundabouts in my opinion:

350d, nicer buffer and better frame rate, helps with soccer
10D, feels more robust, 350d felt plasticy when i go back to it.
10D is 2mp less, but on image quality, I can't tell a difference, until I start cropping in, and even then, its really close stuff...
I find the 10d requires less post-production for sharpness and saturation...

Data Transfer Times! 350d is the big big winner... 10D can take an hour to download, what would take 10 minutes on the 350d. (But, you can buy an adaptor for that little problem.)

In hindsight, I wish I had gone for the 30d as my first DSLR... best of both systems...

But, if you're going second-hand, I say the 10D is a great place to start and i'd recommend it without hesitation...

Hope this helps,


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Nov 10, 2006 19:38 |  #48

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I have the 350d, and an older 10d...

Use them on my 70-200 f2.8L IS and my 300 f2.8 L... Mainly for sports... As you can see, went for glass first, and bodies will get the upgrade when i can afford them, 1d Mark2 N.

Anyway, back to the question: Swings and roundabouts in my opinion:

350d, nicer buffer and better frame rate, helps with soccer
10D, feels more robust, 350d felt plasticy when i go back to it.
10D is 2mp less, but on image quality, I can't tell a difference, until I start cropping in, and even then, its really close stuff...
I find the 10d requires less post-production for sharpness and saturation...

Data Transfer Times! 350d is the big big winner... 10D can take an hour to download, what would take 10 minutes on the 350d. (But, you can buy an adaptor for that little problem.)

In hindsight, I wish I had gone for the 30d as my first DSLR... best of both systems...

But, if you're going second-hand, I say the 10D is a great place to start and i'd recommend it without hesitation...

Hope this helps,

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Not by much. 10D is actually better with the fps. And then most people use card readers, so its more dependent upon your card and your usb or firewire.

The rear control dial is defintely better for sports.


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Nov 11, 2006 05:21 |  #49

Grego, agree with you on the rear control dial...

In terms of those stats, there's a missing aspect to it... The 10D takes about 30 seconds to clear the buffer once full, the 350d, takes about 8-10 secs.


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Nov 11, 2006 06:21 |  #50

The biggest reason I shy away from using my 10 D is the tiny buffer. My 5 D has a very nice buffer, instantaneous startup, and better ISO performance compared to the 10 D.


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Nov 11, 2006 06:29 |  #51

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The biggest reason I shy away from using my 10 D is the tiny buffer. My 5 D has a very nice buffer, instantaneous startup, and better ISO performance compared to the 10 D.

It should given the price difference. ;)


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Nov 11, 2006 08:29 |  #52

I've been shooting with my 10D since I got it two years ago. I've done a lot of work with it, shot sports, theatre, dance, etc.

I have held off upgrading until yesterday, and the only reason I did was because of High ISO performance. I'm starting up my own company, and also thought it would be a good idea to have two bodies for backup and so that I can have a second shooter.

Get the 10D, I love mine!


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Nov 11, 2006 09:08 |  #53

fairly new to this but I bought a 10D second hand and am more than happy with it does every thing I want a alot more


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Nov 11, 2006 14:23 |  #54

I have a 10D which works great for me and I just ordered a 30D. Will my Tamron 18-200mm, Canon 28-105mm and my 70-200 2.8L all work the same with my 30D? I know the 10D can't use the EF-S lenses. Also, how do the Sigma and Tokina lenses in the 10-20mm range compare to the Canon? I shoot weddings and the 30D will now be my main camera and the 10D will be my backup.
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Nov 11, 2006 14:29 |  #55

jayman wrote in post #2248619 (external link)
I have a 10D which works great for me and I just ordered a 30D. Will my Tamron 18-200mm, Canon 28-105mm and my 70-200 2.8L all work the same with my 30D? I know the 10D can't use the EF-S lenses. Also, how do the Sigma and Tokina lenses in the 10-20mm range compare to the Canon?
Thanks.

In a word: yes. Lots of threads comparing the UWA lenses.


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Nov 14, 2006 03:15 |  #56

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The biggest reason I shy away from using my 10 D is the tiny buffer. My 5 D has a very nice buffer, instantaneous startup, and better ISO performance compared to the 10 D.

Yep, this is actually the reason I will be switching from my 10D to a 5D as soon as possible. I love everything about my 10D except that the buffer fills up during portrait shoots and I end up having about 30-35 seconds of down time while the buffer clears which is IMO completely unacceptable


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Nov 14, 2006 03:27 |  #57

I used to a Powershot A80 for a few years and since July this year, have been given use of a 10D by a friend and neighbour (who has too many cameras than he knows what to do with!) As the first DSLR I used, I found it quite easy to pick up the basics of it. The layout is so similar to the Powershot that there was no need for a manual. I could do exactly what I needed almost immediately.

I had one day to practice using it before a full day at a sports event, and I had no problems!

Since then, I've done street, sport and concert photography, achieving fantastic results each time.

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I found it performed well in all cases, using 28-135mm 3.5-5.6.



  
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Nov 14, 2006 03:39 |  #58

pparker wrote in post #2247149 (external link)
The biggest reason I shy away from using my 10 D is the tiny buffer. My 5 D has a very nice buffer, instantaneous startup, and better ISO performance compared to the 10 D.

Uh, yeah, of course. The 10D can be had for around 400-600. The 5D can be had for over 2 grand. You'd hope about a generation newer and a diff model(since the 20D/30D is the newer).

Obviously its better. If you are deciding with tha tmuch money between a 5D and 10D, its defintely a different story, but that doesn't mean the 10D is outdated.


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Nov 14, 2006 13:54 |  #59

grego wrote in post #2260324 (external link)
Uh, yeah, of course. The 10D can be had for around 400-600. The 5D can be had for over 2 grand. You'd hope about a generation newer and a diff model(since the 20D/30D is the newer).

Obviously its better. If you are deciding with tha tmuch money between a 5D and 10D, its defintely a different story, but that doesn't mean the 10D is outdated.

Heh. The biggest quirks in this generation of cameras will probably be gone in the next few generations, just like the same quirks from a few generations ago are gone now. Just need to be patient, technology progresses fast.


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Nov 14, 2006 14:23 |  #60

I would say the 10D is great value for money.
The build quality, the feel, the size, the results.
The battery grip on the 10D is great, the 300D one was a tacked on afterthought whereas the 10D one is moulded to the body with no movement and feels like it has always been there.

I would only look elsewhere (20d etc) if you needed features the 10D is lacking.
eg. Better lowlight performance , startup time, buffer, card write speed.


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