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Metering Modes? 30D.

 
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Nov 09, 2006 12:15 |  #1

I have a 30D and have yet to cross the boundary past evaluative metering. I haev no idea where to begin and what mode to use for what sort of scenes. Any helps or links are greatly appreciated.


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Nov 09, 2006 12:19 |  #2

generally we use 'evaluative' but feel free to read the manual for times when other metering modes are effective.


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Nov 09, 2006 12:26 |  #3

I generally use evaluative. As an example of when I switch metering modes, I shoot an annual stage production and for that I switch to partial for shooting because spotlights are used to highlight the subject and backgrounds are often dark. This ensures that the subject is properly exposed which would not be the case if evaluative was used. I have a 20D so the best I can do is partial metering; with your 30D you'd have the option of using spot metering.




  
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Nov 09, 2006 14:23 |  #4

yenoram wrote in post #2239711 (external link)
I generally use evaluative. As an example of when I switch metering modes, I shoot an annual stage production and for that I switch to partial for shooting because spotlights are used to highlight the subject and backgrounds are often dark. This ensures that the subject is properly exposed which would not be the case if evaluative was used. I have a 20D so the best I can do is partial metering; with your 30D you'd have the option of using spot metering.

Heh, I see.

I definitley need to take a glance through my manual to try and help me remember the difference between all the metering modes, although I believe it is very basic and doesn't give examples of situations where each mode would be useful.


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Nov 09, 2006 14:29 |  #6

Get this book http://www.amazon.com …tal-Updated/dp/0817463003 (external link)

I don't know about the 30D's instruction manual, but in the case of the 300D, it explains how to switch between the different modes but not when to use them.


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Nov 09, 2006 14:46 |  #7

montreal wrote in post #2240138 (external link)
Get this book http://www.amazon.com …tal-Updated/dp/0817463003 (external link)

I don't know about the 30D's instruction manual, but in the case of the 300D, it explains how to switch between the different modes but not when to use them.

The sad part is I have that book and have read through it :(.

Thanks for that link, looks good, I'll take a closer look at it later.


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Nov 09, 2006 14:48 as a reply to  @ JaGWiRE's post |  #8
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It is not the best explanation, but it will set you in the right direction..


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Nov 09, 2006 14:52 |  #9

JaGWiRE wrote in post #2240203 (external link)
The sad part is I have that book and have read through it :(.

Perhaps you need to read it again from cover to cover :p

It helped me understand a lot of stuff and now I shoot in 'M' most of the time.


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Nov 09, 2006 14:55 |  #10

montreal wrote in post #2240228 (external link)
Perhaps you need to read it again from cover to cover :p

It helped me understand a lot of stuff and now I shoot in 'M' most of the time.

Yeah, I do need to re-read it, I almost always shoot manual less I have a reason for shooting in TV or AV. As great a book it is, it has a lot of information and unfortunately I am good at forgetting stuff, haha.


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Nov 09, 2006 15:38 as a reply to  @ JaGWiRE's post |  #11

Go to the link Hermeto gave. It explains it and shows photo examples. I'm still learning about metering and even when people offer explanations as to how they use it and why, it does not really click until you do something that shows you on your own camera in your hands.


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Nov 09, 2006 20:15 |  #12

TMR Design wrote in post #2240381 (external link)
Go to the link Hermeto gave. It explains it and shows photo examples. I'm still learning about metering and even when people offer explanations as to how they use it and why, it does not really click until you do something that shows you on your own camera in your hands.

Yeah, definitley.


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Nov 09, 2006 20:25 |  #13

JaGWiRE wrote in post #2240244 (external link)
I almost always shoot manual less I have a reason for shooting in TV or AV.

So you're saying you shoot manual with the evaluative metering mode? I don't understand how you go about doing that... On the 300D it's not even an option (manual goes with "center-weighed)... but even if it was I don't think I would ever do that... how do you know what to compensate for?


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Nov 09, 2006 20:28 |  #14

montreal wrote in post #2241371 (external link)
So you're saying you shoot manual with the evaluative metering mode? I don't understand how you go about doing that... On the 300D it's not even an option (manual goes with "center-weighed)... but even if it was I don't think I would ever do that... how do you know what to compensate for?

Yeah I shoot with the evaluative. Usually works well, sometimes not so well. That's why I started this thread, but I'm guessing I'll have to experiment for myself. With other modes I've had weird results, overexposed or underexposed subjects.


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Nov 09, 2006 20:34 |  #15

JaGWiRE wrote in post #2241377 (external link)
Yeah I shoot with the evaluative. Usually works well, sometimes not so well.

The problem with evaluative (or so I'm told... I'm far from being an expert) is that the camera takes decisions of which you are not aware. This works for most pics but in sometimes tricky conditions you need to expose for a certain specific part of your frame (f. ex. a backlit tree) and then adjust your exposure from there. With evaluative, the camera decides what it wants to do so you can try to adjust as much as you want, you don't know what the starting point is so you're in the dark...


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