I have a 30D and have yet to cross the boundary past evaluative metering. I haev no idea where to begin and what mode to use for what sort of scenes. Any helps or links are greatly appreciated.
JaGWiRE Goldmember 3,859 posts Joined Sep 2006 More info | Nov 09, 2006 12:15 | #1 I have a 30D and have yet to cross the boundary past evaluative metering. I haev no idea where to begin and what mode to use for what sort of scenes. Any helps or links are greatly appreciated. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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ledhed Goldmember 1,929 posts Joined Aug 2005 Location: Apsley, On. CAN. More info | Nov 09, 2006 12:19 | #2 generally we use 'evaluative' but feel free to read the manual for times when other metering modes are effective. Rob - "a photographer is a painter, in a hurry!"
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yenoram Member 239 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jun 2002 Location: Canada More info | Nov 09, 2006 12:26 | #3 I generally use evaluative. As an example of when I switch metering modes, I shoot an annual stage production and for that I switch to partial for shooting because spotlights are used to highlight the subject and backgrounds are often dark. This ensures that the subject is properly exposed which would not be the case if evaluative was used. I have a 20D so the best I can do is partial metering; with your 30D you'd have the option of using spot metering.
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Nov 09, 2006 14:23 | #4 yenoram wrote in post #2239711 I generally use evaluative. As an example of when I switch metering modes, I shoot an annual stage production and for that I switch to partial for shooting because spotlights are used to highlight the subject and backgrounds are often dark. This ensures that the subject is properly exposed which would not be the case if evaluative was used. I have a 20D so the best I can do is partial metering; with your 30D you'd have the option of using spot metering. Heh, I see. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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Hermeto Cream of the Crop 6,674 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Permanent banWhat we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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montreal Goldmember 1,194 posts Joined Apr 2005 Location: Trondheim, Norway More info | Nov 09, 2006 14:29 | #6 Get this book http://www.amazon.com …tal-Updated/dp/0817463003 5D - 17-40L, 70-200L f4, 50 f1.4, PowerShot A430
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Nov 09, 2006 14:46 | #7 montreal wrote in post #2240138 Get this book http://www.amazon.com …tal-Updated/dp/0817463003 I don't know about the 30D's instruction manual, but in the case of the 300D, it explains how to switch between the different modes but not when to use them. The sad part is I have that book and have read through it Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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Hermeto Cream of the Crop 6,674 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Permanent banIt is not the best explanation, but it will set you in the right direction.. What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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montreal Goldmember 1,194 posts Joined Apr 2005 Location: Trondheim, Norway More info | Nov 09, 2006 14:52 | #9 Perhaps you need to read it again from cover to cover 5D - 17-40L, 70-200L f4, 50 f1.4, PowerShot A430
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Nov 09, 2006 14:55 | #10 montreal wrote in post #2240228 Perhaps you need to read it again from cover to cover It helped me understand a lot of stuff and now I shoot in 'M' most of the time. Yeah, I do need to re-read it, I almost always shoot manual less I have a reason for shooting in TV or AV. As great a book it is, it has a lot of information and unfortunately I am good at forgetting stuff, haha. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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TMRDesign Cream of the Crop 23,883 posts Likes: 12 Joined Feb 2006 Location: Huntington Station, NY More info | Go to the link Hermeto gave. It explains it and shows photo examples. I'm still learning about metering and even when people offer explanations as to how they use it and why, it does not really click until you do something that shows you on your own camera in your hands. Robert
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Nov 09, 2006 20:15 | #12 TMR Design wrote in post #2240381 Go to the link Hermeto gave. It explains it and shows photo examples. I'm still learning about metering and even when people offer explanations as to how they use it and why, it does not really click until you do something that shows you on your own camera in your hands. Yeah, definitley. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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montreal Goldmember 1,194 posts Joined Apr 2005 Location: Trondheim, Norway More info | Nov 09, 2006 20:25 | #13 JaGWiRE wrote in post #2240244 I almost always shoot manual less I have a reason for shooting in TV or AV. So you're saying you shoot manual with the evaluative metering mode? I don't understand how you go about doing that... On the 300D it's not even an option (manual goes with "center-weighed)... but even if it was I don't think I would ever do that... how do you know what to compensate for? 5D - 17-40L, 70-200L f4, 50 f1.4, PowerShot A430
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Nov 09, 2006 20:28 | #14 montreal wrote in post #2241371 So you're saying you shoot manual with the evaluative metering mode? I don't understand how you go about doing that... On the 300D it's not even an option (manual goes with "center-weighed)... but even if it was I don't think I would ever do that... how do you know what to compensate for? Yeah I shoot with the evaluative. Usually works well, sometimes not so well. That's why I started this thread, but I'm guessing I'll have to experiment for myself. With other modes I've had weird results, overexposed or underexposed subjects. Canon EOS 30D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 105 Macro, 135L, 430ex, Lowepro Mini Trekker AW, Manfrotto 3001pro w/486rc2 and 804rc2 head, Manfrotto 681 w/ 3232 head.
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montreal Goldmember 1,194 posts Joined Apr 2005 Location: Trondheim, Norway More info | Nov 09, 2006 20:34 | #15 JaGWiRE wrote in post #2241377 Yeah I shoot with the evaluative. Usually works well, sometimes not so well. The problem with evaluative (or so I'm told... I'm far from being an expert) is that the camera takes decisions of which you are not aware. This works for most pics but in sometimes tricky conditions you need to expose for a certain specific part of your frame (f. ex. a backlit tree) and then adjust your exposure from there. With evaluative, the camera decides what it wants to do so you can try to adjust as much as you want, you don't know what the starting point is so you're in the dark... 5D - 17-40L, 70-200L f4, 50 f1.4, PowerShot A430
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