HoHoHo (your official Christmas wishlist) 2006

I've been saving forever and now that I secured a terrible part-time paying job, I decided, I'll never get it in time for all these shoots I have. I may sell my 20D, if I find I don't use it much. My son says the 10D is fine for him, so I may just do that sometime.

SuzyView wrote in post #2232460
I've been saving forever and now that I secured a terrible part-time paying job, I decided, I'll never get it in time for all these shoots I have. I may sell my 20D, if I find I don't use it much. My son says the 10D is fine for him, so I may just do that sometime.

How much will you sell you 20D for about?

Don't know. Too early to tell. I have been speaking to Jon about it because he just got his 5D not too long ago and he uses his 20D still for the reach. He is thinking of converting his older camera to infrared, which is another thing I can do. I'll keep you posted.

SuzyView wrote in post #2232471
Don't know. Too early to tell. I have been speaking to Jon about it because he just got his 5D not too long ago and he uses his 20D still for the reach. He is thinking of converting his older camera to infrared, which is another thing I can do. I'll keep you posted.

I use my 30D a lot for both the reach and the 5fps...sometimes when I think (I should sell it and buy glass) it's both those reasons that keep me from it...

Permagrin wrote in post #2232503
I use my 30D a lot for both the reach and the 5fps...sometimes when I think (I should sell it and buy glass) it's both those reasons that keep me from it...

Actually, 30D + 5D is a nice pair for what you do. Advantages in the field include shared components - bring just one charger for BP511s! (conversely if you bring only one charger, that charger will quit on you. Bring both but at least you have redundancy)

Reach is good.. 5fps is decent.

There are times where I wonder what would have happened if I had gone down the 30D route, or whether I should have kept my 20D which is now a mere footnote in my Canon story. If I tow a 1D, I have to haul the GIGANTIC batt packs and the NC-E2 charger which is literally the size of a building brick though substantially lighter. That plus batt packs and batt usage would add quite a lot to my load.

OTOH, I could always use my 350D to cover for that as my tele-extender camera. I'd miss the awesome 45-point AF and when I really need 8fps, I NEED 8FPS. I never realized horses could jump, take off and land between 3fps frames of my 5D until I tried catching them in action.


The perfect compromise would be a 1.3X, 45-point AF, weather-sealed WITHOUT grip camera that takes BP511A's. Wouldn't need the extra space for the grip. 5D single-handed control set, 2.5" LCD, f/8 center AF point for using things like the 100-400 with teleconverter (WILL AF on 1-series with TC).

Actually..... a 5D successor would do that for me. You can 'digital 1.3X' a 5D image, because since it has the exact same 8.2 micron pitch that the 1D M2/N sensors have, you can do a 8MP crop in software later. I can even get it done automatically (cobbled some scripts to do automated image processing). If the 5D would do 5fps, that would be heaven - might never have bought a 1D in that case. Rumor has it that Canon may give it the 45-point Area AF engine. If they do that, I would be on the preorder list and the only thing that can slow me down is Visa saying "CARD DECLINED"

SuzyView wrote in post #2232471
Don't know. Too early to tell. I have been speaking to Jon about it because he just got his 5D not too long ago and he uses his 20D still for the reach. He is thinking of converting his older camera to infrared, which is another thing I can do. I'll keep you posted.

SuzyView wrote in post #2232460
I've been saving forever and now that I secured a terrible part-time paying job, I decided, I'll never get it in time for all these shoots I have. I may sell my 20D, if I find I don't use it much. My son says the 10D is fine for him, so I may just do that sometime.

My poor 20D doesn't get any use now that I have the 5D. I just think I should hang on to it as a back up camera, though.....just in case.

Maureen Souza wrote in post #2232640
My poor 20D doesn't get any use now that I have the 5D. I just think I should hang on to it as a back up camera, though.....just in case.

Yeah, it's that "just in case" that keeps coming back to me. Dave here did a shoot for the Redskins last week and his 1DMKIIN was in the "hosptial" and he only had his 10D. That made the shoot more difficult for him, I'm sure. So, if I'm serious about this as a business, I need to work on the whole plan.

SuzyView wrote in post #2232372
Well, when they come out for Christmas, my 18 year old will definitely have his little A510 and the two little boys are getting the A530 and my oldest will probably use my 20D, but he'll be said to be using my 24-70 and then go back to the 10D with 28-135. The 24-70 is a beautiful lens. I have gotten quite attached to it.

He's not going to be using the 24-70. You won't take it off the 5D except to put the 17-40 on. Let 'im use the 50. Or bring "his own" camera.

Lightstream wrote in post #2232534
Actually, 30D + 5D is a nice pair for what you do. Advantages in the field include shared components - bring just one charger for BP511s! (conversely if you bring only one charger, that charger will quit on you. Bring both but at least you have redundancy)

Amen to that. My charger fried while we were in Greece. Fortunately I had 6-7 batteries in addition to the ones in the cameras, our tour guide owned (but her nephew commandeered) a 5D and I was going to borrow the charger from that, but I found a shop in Rhodes with a reasonably-priced charger. Actually one in Patmos had a 20D NIB and was willing to pull the charger out for me to use. Unfortunately the ship wasn't going to be around long enough.

Lightstream wrote in post #2232534
Reach is good.. 5fps is decent.

There are times where I wonder what would have happened if I had gone down the 30D route, or whether I should have kept my 20D which is now a mere footnote in my Canon story. If I tow a 1D, I have to haul the GIGANTIC batt packs and the NC-E2 charger which is literally the size of a building brick though substantially lighter. That plus batt packs and batt usage would add quite a lot to my load.

OTOH, I could always use my 350D to cover for that as my tele-extender camera. I'd miss the awesome 45-point AF and when I really need 8fps, I NEED 8FPS. I never realized horses could jump, take off and land between 3fps frames of my 5D until I tried catching them in action.


The perfect compromise would be a 1.3X, 45-point AF, weather-sealed WITHOUT grip camera that takes BP511A's. Wouldn't need the extra space for the grip. 5D single-handed control set, 2.5" LCD, f/8 center AF point for using things like the 100-400 with teleconverter (WILL AF on 1-series with TC).

Actually..... a 5D successor would do that for me. You can 'digital 1.3X' a 5D image, because since it has the exact same 8.2 micron pitch that the 1D M2/N sensors have, you can do a 8MP crop in software later. I can even get it done automatically (cobbled some scripts to do automated image processing). If the 5D would do 5fps, that would be heaven - might never have bought a 1D in that case. Rumor has it that Canon may give it the 45-point Area AF engine. If they do that, I would be on the preorder list and the only thing that can slow me down is Visa saying "CARD DECLINED"

I agree - I'd like a "super-5D" with more fps, f/8 AF and more AF points. I don't particularly like the extra bulk of the 1-series when I'm packing for travel and having a common battery size is definitely a plus even if you do carry dual chargers. The BP-511 onews are so small tit's not bad.

SuzyView wrote in post #2227371
Ordering my 5D. Don't know if I'll open it before Christmas.

Permagrin wrote in post #2232261
Are you going to wait until Christmas to use it, really?

Whether you use it this weekend or not, we expect to see it on the 2nd for the Christmas lights at the Temple and Brookside.

I'm calling the 85 1.8 and 24-105 my presents this year. Only problem with the 70-200 is close focus isn't close enough for interior small dog shots and the 24-70 on the 5D doesn't have the reach. Slap the 24-105 on the 20D and I'm covered. I suspect the 85's going to end up being another one of my "insurance primes" that I practically never use. But PPE code knocked $100 off the 24-105 at B&H, and double rebate brings it down another $100 to under $1K. I've also sent the B&H wish list off to my wife and sisters. It's only the small stuff I usually tack onto a regular order anyhow - tripod socket threaded adapters, QR plates, cables and the like.

I'm actually used to the FF with my film camera so I know what I am up against. But the 20D has been a great purchase. I don't regret that a bit. It still feels wonderful and the grip with the 70-200 is something, still not as heavy as the 1 series. I just ordered another green POTN strap. Can't wait to get that. But now the problem is the bag situation. I may have to reconfigure all of my set up for a new camera. Oh, it just never ends. I'm thinking the 5D with 24-70 in the Domke bag and everything else in the Velocity 9 and I can still carry it around without too much trouble. Just don't ask about the tripod yet.

SuzyView wrote in post #2234390
I'm actually used to the FF with my film camera so I know what I am up against. But the 20D has been a great purchase. I don't regret that a bit. It still feels wonderful and the grip with the 70-200 is something, still not as heavy as the 1 series. I just ordered another green POTN strap. Can't wait to get that. But now the problem is the bag situation. I may have to reconfigure all of my set up for a new camera. Oh, it just never ends. I'm thinking the 5D with 24-70 in the Domke bag and everything else in the Velocity 9 and I can still carry it around without too much trouble. Just don't ask about the tripod yet.

What tripod are you getting ?

Pick up one of those $13 fold-up chairs and use the case for your tripod.

Thanks, Jon. I think I have 5 of them. But I am going to bring a tripod anyway on the 2nd because it is going to be hard without it. You're going to have to coach me through the bulb setting.

Yea probjus keep it as a backup...

I had a person looking for a 20D, but he isnt looking anymore anyways...

I say if you can afford it, keep it for the reach and its a great backup1

I am a poor/starving videographer/photograp​her and I jsut bought my xmas present for me on saturday, a 19" widescreen LCD. Back to a ramen noodle diet I guess.

I bought my car some early xmas presents as well, a Borla Exhaust system and a pair of Corvette Cylinder heads and valve covers.

Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #2207433
Nope, just the MKII. I want the N.

yeah because the N is lighter and more compact