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which is better: 400 f2.8 or 600 f4?

 
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Nov 14, 2006 18:42 |  #16

elfieh, Thanks for asking this question. I've been toying around with the idea of buying a long lens (I deserve it :)). Like the other helpful posters said, focal length needs to be considered as to what kind of subjects you would like to shoot. I bought a book about shooting birds with a digital camera and the author seemed to favor his 500mm f/4 lens. I'm keeping an open mind about that because he's sure to be bias toward his own equipment. I did ask a similar question like your's over in the animal sharing forum and one poster replied that a proper tripod was a very important part of using long lenses like a 600mm. Just a small amount of shake can ruin a in-focused image especially at long focal ranges (with tele-converters added too). I checked out some tripods and can see that a sturdy set-up can run hundreds of dollars. That's something to think about. Now I just have to decide if I want to focus on birds or larger wildlife or both.


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Nov 14, 2006 19:15 |  #17

If you need reach and are considering a 12 lb lens (like the 400/2.8 or 600/4) then consider the Sigmonster (Sigma 300-800/5.6) Do read the latest review at Luminous Landscape where the words "superb" and "legend" are used more than once.


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Nov 14, 2006 19:34 |  #18

gasrocks wrote in post #2263578 (external link)
If you need reach and are considering a 12 lb lens (like the 400/2.8 or 600/4) then consider the Sigmonster (Sigma 300-800/5.6) Do read the latest review at Luminous Landscape where the words "superb" and "legend" are used more than once.

that is also a great suggestion. i had the pleasure of using the sigmonster and it was great (very very heavy though). the only thing that i didn't like about the sigmonster was the fact that i lost AF with the 1.4tc even though it was f8 (still af on 1 series).




  
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Nov 14, 2006 20:14 as a reply to  @ blonde's post |  #19

I avoided buying the 400 lens for wildlife as it is just too heavy. I have the 300 2.8 and the 500 and 600 f/4's. They all have their place in one repertoire depending on what you are shooting.

I have used the 300 with a 2.0TC on it and I didn't like the loss of quality and light that you end up with. It is great with a 1.4, perhaps it is just my copy of the 2.0. It was ok for animals/birds that weren't in motion but once you get a bird in flight I just wasn't happy.

The 500 and 600 are great birding lenses and you can sometimes be too close to larger animals so that is where the 300 comes into play more often. I went to the 600 after getting my full frame bodies as there were times when I didn't have the reach that I wanted when using these with the 500. Both the 500 and 600 have excellent sharpness to them but certainly not to the extent of the 300. The 300 is one of Canon's sharpest long lenses, probably only second to the 400.

The 300 is very much handholdable, even with the 1.4TC. The 500 can be and I have but you don't do it for very long at a time. The 600 is almost impossible to handhold unless you have a shutter speed that is way up there and it will tire you out pretty quick. With all of these lenses you have to consider a good support system. When I had just the 300 I had a Gitzo carbon fiber tripod with a Kirk BH1 head with a Wimberly sidekick. This did work with the 500 but there were times where it didn't feel comfortable. You really had to make sure that your knobs were turned in tight. When I got the 600 I knew there was no way that this was going to work so I invested in another tripod and the Wimberly Head Version II. It is a sweet unit. If one was going to get the 400 you definitely would need something in the line of the Wimberly head given its weight.

A smart photographer will fully investigate these lenses before making a purchase of this stature. It is not about not deserving them, its about making an informed decision. You can't make that decision unless you get the information.


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Nov 14, 2006 20:38 |  #20

Exit wrote in post #2263138 (external link)
People who ask these kinds of questions about lenses like these don't deserve to own them.

Feeling a bit condescending today?


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