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Nov 15, 2006 02:40 |  #1

so I got to borrow this lens from a friend and shot some vball pics with it. the games wasn't all that great, we lost :( in 3 games. so i didn't get many photos.

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Nov 15, 2006 02:51 |  #2

#3 is great too...all players are in great position...good split second capture...
I have this lens in IS version since last week...haven't used it yet...

Your shots look pretty sharp...the colors could use some work in PP...

Ah, yes...which teams are these?..

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Nov 15, 2006 02:56 |  #3

They appear a little noisy, what were your settings?


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Nov 15, 2006 03:06 |  #4

prolly iso 1600, to get the shutter speeds. nothing noise ninja cant fix.


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Nov 15, 2006 14:38 |  #5

If these are your first attempts, good on you...

Nothing some PPing cant fix...


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Nov 15, 2006 22:03 |  #6

you fell into the old "i got a long telephoto, let me step backwards a bit more" syndrome. you'll get better shots with 70-200 if you get as close as possible, and often half the court shooting across the net works well. problem with shooting from one side of a gym to another is that you loose any interesting backgrounds.


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Nov 15, 2006 22:36 |  #7

3, 4, 6 and 7 are all my pics!!! i especially love the capture in #3!!!

a little too noisy but overall you did a great job with a borrowed lens!!!


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Nov 16, 2006 01:10 |  #8

thx for the comments. I actually shot these at iso 800, 1/250, and f2.8 so I did do some tight cropping on the photos and adjusted the lighting using curves.
my location was near a wall across from the net, I didn't want to get in the way of the players so I stayed near the barriers but I did basically walk all around the court trying to find different angles.
the schools were my northern arizona university vs sacramento state. I accidently misidentified a photo for my school papere here and said this other school was sac state.but the photo is b/w so I don't think many will even notice...

so does anyone know why it turned out so noisy? i only shot at iso800. was it because of my tight cropping?


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Nov 18, 2006 06:05 |  #9

disneydork06 wrote in post #2270257 (external link)
so does anyone know why it turned out so noisy? i only shot at iso800. was it because of my tight cropping?

I'm gonna make up an answer here based on my experience, which I'm sure will not be complete, and I encourage any other photo-bitheads to weight in: noise is a function of several things: obviously ISO is and available light are a couple of them, but not the only ones. When you change the ISO of a digital camera, you are adjusting the gain of some of it's exposure circuitry, and like what happens when you crank your home audio system too high, disortiion and noise will result. When there is a smaller amount of image information, such as at low light conditions, you are giving the camera's intrinsic noise output a higher percentage of what ends up on the image. This intrinsic noise is always there, but with an adequately lit shot, the information coming from the image will be FAR greater, therefore making the camers sensor noise less nocitceable.

Here are a few good articles that describe noise, and what to do about it:

http://www.picturecode​.com/noise.htm (external link)

http://www.photo.net/l​earn/dark_noise/ (external link)

http://www.photoxels.c​om/tutorial_noise.html (external link)

My suggestion: try Noise Ninja (what I use) or something equivalent.

Here is your shot run through Noise Ninja very quickly, with any USM from NN turned off (since I'm sure you already sharpened the image).

BTW, when Noise Ninja opened your file, it recognized it as a 20D file, but said the ISO was 3200, so are you SURE you were at ISO 800? My guess is either you were at a higher ISO than you realized, or Noise NInja's ability to read beyond a Save for Web (don't recommend doing this, BTW, as it strips all EXIF data from your images, and when people try to help out, makes it harder) went astray.

I like your shots, though, especially for a first time out with a new sport and new lens.

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Nov 27, 2006 03:21 |  #10

actually this last photo that you adjusted I believe I took that with my D70 at 1600 250 f2.8. weird it says its from a 20d. wish I had one though! :-)


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Nov 27, 2006 10:22 as a reply to  @ disneydork06's post |  #11

just taken the noise out of the first one with noiseware. does it look a little better?


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Nov 28, 2006 14:50 |  #12

looks tons better. now I just need to find myself some software to do the same. any cheap recommendations?


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Nov 29, 2006 07:04 as a reply to  @ disneydork06's post |  #13

Noiseware is a free stand alone programme that can be downloaded off the net. Just do a google search for it and Bob's yer uncle or yer granny.




  
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