WTF Happened?

Hey..... they are both right. The image absolutely has been sharpened. You can see it form the highlight on her leg -that is a big sharpening give away. Also the pattern in the original looks like sharpening because all the colors are extremely contrastie. But it also looks like you did a more then 1 stop push on processing. Again, a lot of the RAW tools will do both of these automagically for you. I never let the conversion tool do any sharpening if I can avoid it.

Lastly, you don't need 1/500 for the shots you got. You can come down to 1/250 easily for all three of those shots. Any really fast motion shots may have some issues particularly if they are in a sideways motion from you. But other then then, cheer has lots of posses, and those you can go really slow with as long as you are stable with your camera or are using IS.

Cheers - and good luck with it.

Another issue could be the light in the gym - heavily color light tends to bring out noise as well, particularly if there isn't much blue in the light. Check the white balance sliders - having them pretty near either of the extremes tends to make images noisier.

It should be better than that.
This is from my 10D which is not known for good high ISO performance.
Adjusted levels and noise.

CAMERA: Canon EOS 10D | ISO SETTING: 3200 | EXPOSURE MODE: Av-priority | EXPOSURE TIME: 1/125s | APERTURE: 2.8 | FOCAL LENGTH: 45.0mm | FLASH: Flash did not fire

Not that this will impact the noise but you might want to change the setting in your camera to RGB colorspace. The EXIF says its sRGB. Unless you shoot exclusively for the WEB RGB is the colorspace to use IMO.

TroPhoto wrote in post #2273397
Not that this will impact the noise but you might want to change the setting in your camera to RGB colorspace. The EXIF says its sRGB. Unless you shoot exclusively for the WEB RGB is the colorspace to use IMO.

RBG?
you mean adobe 1998 RGB?

back to ACR, the other thing to worry about is the chroma noise remover. that tends to add a lot of noise over the DPP counterpart (works better even at lower strengths, but tradeoff is more luma noise)

sonny_c wrote in post #2266266
I did try NN, and it barely put a dent removing the noise.

Did you use the profile for your camera?

Noise ninja profiles are very important. Very. NN sucked before I got mine in there.

The nature of the first two pics, with large pieces of bright white in the center foreground has fooled the camera's meter into under exposing the photos. The meter is expecting a grey image, and as a result the backgrounds are very underexposed, and hence the noise. A little exposure compensation (overexpose) is needed.

OK guys I've been busy and now I have time to explain what I've found out.

First of all let me say that I converted over to using RAW, Bridge & ACR from shooting JPG and using PS CS2 only a week ago. With that being said let me continue. I started out that day shooting some test shot in AP, ISO1600, f/2.8, and shutter speed 1/160-1/250. My original intention was to switch over to Manual Mode then bump up the shutter speed to 1/500 allowing me to stop the action, but at the same time I thought the shots would be a little underexposed. Then use ACR to adjust the exposure. What I didn't know is that ACR automatically correct the photos inside of Bridge. I never got to manually adjust the because ACR automatically did a bad enough job.

Everybody say it with me....."RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all!"

I'm sorry, this is slightly off topic, but why is what seems to be a boy wearing lipstick and a miniskirt covered in sequins?!

Incomplete Pete wrote in post #2282589
I'm sorry, this is slightly off topic, but why is what seems to be a boy wearing lipstick and a miniskirt covered in sequins?!

That poor kid, I think it is a girl

sonny_c wrote in post #2282298
OK guys I've been busy and now I have time to explain what I've found out.

First of all let me say that I converted over to using RAW, Bridge & ACR from shooting JPG and using PS CS2 only a week ago. With that being said let me continue. I started out that day shooting some test shot in AP, ISO1600, f/2.8, and shutter speed 1/160-1/250. My original intention was to switch over to Manual Mode then bump up the shutter speed to 1/500 allowing me to stop the action, but at the same time I thought the shots would be a little underexposed. Then use ACR to adjust the exposure. What I didn't know is that ACR automatically correct the photos inside of Bridge. I never got to manually adjust the because ACR automatically did a bad enough job.

Everybody say it with me....."RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all!"

Scott Kelby wrote a very good book about using CS2 and Bridge. The first couple of chapters alone are worth the price of the book.

The Photoshop CS2 Book for Digital Photographers. You can find it at Amazon.com... and other bookstores.

ACR doesn't automatically do anything that you don't tell it to do...

sonny_c wrote in post #2282298
OK guys I've been busy and now I have time to explain what I've found out.

First of all let me say that I converted over to using RAW, Bridge & ACR from shooting JPG and using PS CS2 only a week ago. With that being said let me continue. I started out that day shooting some test shot in AP, ISO1600, f/2.8, and shutter speed 1/160-1/250. My original intention was to switch over to Manual Mode then bump up the shutter speed to 1/500 allowing me to stop the action, but at the same time I thought the shots would be a little underexposed. Then use ACR to adjust the exposure. What I didn't know is that ACR automatically correct the photos inside of Bridge. I never got to manually adjust the because ACR automatically did a bad enough job.

Everybody say it with me....."RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all, RAW is not a fix-all!"

When you open the raw files in Adobe Bridge, it will attempt to correctly adjust the settings for you.


Just Press ctrl(cmd) + U, to bypass this

What about in camera sharpening was that on. I rarely use it though.
I always also take a hand held meter reading prior to the event if I can that way you get a "real" accurate idea of the lighting. I notice also that you use Auto white balance. Next time try and get a WB inside the gym you are at it will reduce any changes you will have to make in PP that may add to your visible noise issue.

Les

just for fun, i ran through neat image

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