RAW from 1DMk2N and Elements 4

Hi,

I know Adobe have updated CS2 to read RAW files from a 1dMk2N, but does anyone know if there is an update/download available for Elements V4? - I've had a look around Adobe's site, but can't seem to find anything?

[Edit: just checked the "system" info in Elelements and it informs me that the RAW converter in version 3.2 - shouldn't this version already read these RAW files?]

Thanks

TJ

Just a hunch, but I think anyone who has a 1dMk2N (it would seem) would already have CS2 and not mess around with Photoshop Elements.

As for reading RAW files, I believe (like CS2) it will ready any RAW files. The RAW converter, on the other hand, is what needs to handle RAW files, and the converter used in Photoshop Elements 4.0 is the same as it used in CS2. You just need to make sure the converter is up-to-date.

Hawg Hanner wrote in post #2275288
Just a hunch, but I think anyone who has a 1dMk2N (it would seem) would already have CS2 and not mess around with Photoshop Elements.

So, which is it you drive then - a Porshe or a Ferrari?

TeeJay wrote in post #2275093
[Edit: just checked the "system" info in Elelements and it informs me that the RAW converter in version 3.2 - shouldn't this version already read these RAW files?]

Yes, I would think it should. PSE doesn't recognize your images at all?

rfreschner wrote in post #2275482
Yes, I would think it should. PSE doesn't recognize your images at all?

No, it simply says that the file format isn't recognised.

It would appear from the Adobe web-site that they have upgraded the RAW software for CS2 (to read the RAW format from the 1dMk2n) - but not CS by the look of it - which made me wonder about PSE4!?

Maybe I should send an email to Adobe?

As far as cameras are concerned it would seem you have the Porsche and my Canon EOS 5D is a Cadillac. But even I use authentic GM Goodwrench parts on my Cadillac. Photoshop Elements, IMHO, would be more akin to using refurbished parts on that Porsche of yours.

Oh, and with the discounts Canon and/or Adobe offers now, I think you can pick up a copy of Photoshop CS2 for around $250.

TeeJay wrote in post #2275531
No, it simply says that the file format isn't recognised.

It would appear from the Adobe web-site that they have upgraded the RAW software for CS2 (to read the RAW format from the 1dMk2n) - but not CS by the look of it - which made me wonder about PSE4!?

No, that shouldn't be the case with PSE4. I've read posts from other PSE users that have said that the current plugin for ACR works fine with PSE. Have you check to make sure it's installed it in the correct directory? If so, maybe the Adobe PSE forum would be the next step.

Hawg Hanner wrote in post #2276009
As far as cameras are concerned it would seem you have the Porsche and my Canon EOS 5D is a Cadillac. But even I use authentic GM Goodwrench parts on my Cadillac. Photoshop Elements, IMHO, would be more akin to using refurbished parts on that Porsche of yours.

- OK, I'll give you that one

Hawg Hanner wrote in post #2276023
Oh, and with the discounts Canon and/or Adobe offers now, I think you can pick up a copy of Photoshop CS2 for around $250.

Oh come on, this is the United Kingdom we are talking about! Since when do we get the ultra-low prices that you all enjoy the other side of that little stretch of water that sits between our countries.

Let me let you into a little secret.... I have just checked on the Adobe (UK) web site. For me to upgrade from Photoshop Elements 4 to Photoshop CS2 they would like me to send them a whopping £428.88 (GBP)

- now in case you guys havn't got an exchange rate calculator handy (and I've just this second checked the Reuters website) that works out at.... wait for it, $812.60 (USD)!!!!! for the UPGRADE!

Hmmm.... tempting offer isn't it?

Actualy, I've just found the download I need on the website - I thank everyone for their help- I'll just go and fit that old sock back on the air-filter

Hawg Hanner wrote in post #2276009
Photoshop Elements, IMHO, would be more akin to using refurbished parts on that Porsche of yours.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this statement. For some folks, there is absolutely no need for the added functionality (and associated learning curve) with CS2. PSE is a very capable editing tool and will do the job for many folks.

rfreschner wrote in post #2276110
Sorry, but I have to disagree with this statement. For some folks, there is absolutely no need for the added functionality (and associated learning curve) with CS2. PSE is a very capable editing tool and will do the job for many folks.

Thank you Rick. It does what I need it to do.

CS will not open the raw files from my 1DN but Raw Shooter Essentials will and you can still download it for free from Pixmantec's website. Lightroom will open them too.

rfreschner, I did not not say that Photoshop Elements wasn't a very capable program. It is, indeed. In fact, I'm a huge fan. It's what I learned basic photo editing on and it is what gave me the ability to quickly and easily pick-up Photoshop CS2. I am no pro. And I think it is really all you need if you are using a 20D, 400D, 350D, 300D, 10D, etc. for the most part. If, however, you are using one of Canon's top-of-the-line cameras, I think it probably makes sense IMHO to have Photoshop CS2 and learn how to use it...especially if you are already using Photoshop Elements. The learning curve is not that steep and the results and flexibility is worth every cent.

Hawg Hanner wrote in post #2276171
rfreschner, I did not not say that Photoshop Elements wasn't a very capable program. It is, indeed. In fact, I'm a huge fan. It's what I learned basic photo editing on and it is what gave me the ability to quickly and easily pick-up Photoshop CS2. I am no pro. And I think it is really all you need if you are using a 20D, 400D, 350D, 300D, 10D, etc. for the most part. If, however, you are using one of Canon's top-of-the-line cameras, I think it probably makes sense IMHO to have Photoshop CS2 and learn how to use it...especially if you are already using Photoshop Elements. The learning curve is not that steep and the results and flexibility is worth every cent.

So do you think all the Pros whom you see on the sidelines are familiar with and own CS2? I doubt it. They typically shoot JPEG and send their unedited files to their respective companies, which then crop or resize and send to publishing. On the other hand I own an XT with some "cheaper" lenses but have CS2. I guess it is a waste huh. I should have just bought Elements.

Come on guys, is this really something to debate. The choice of which editing program to use is a purely personal choice. There is no right or wrong answer. I know someone that shoots with a 1DMKII and using PSP. He turns out some great work. He shoots purely for enjoyment and will probably never need the extra functionality that CS2 offers.

I certainly don't believe that there has to be a relation between your body type and the editing program that you use.