It should be illegal!

Claire wrote in post #2312003
I bet that's where he gets gifts for his woman...

No way - too expensive. £20 for a "diamond dust" ring. I get them from Aldi or Netto.

dewmuw wrote in post #2312216
No way - too expensive. £20 for a "diamond dust" ring. I get them from Aldi or Netto.

Cheapskate!! I used to say to my exes that if they ever bought me jewellery from Argos I'd kick their ass...

Claire wrote in post #2312241
Cheapskate!! I used to say to my exes that if they ever bought me jewellery from Argos I'd kick their ass...

Argos - cool idea! And at the same time I can get her a £5 microscope so she can see the diamond!

dewmuw wrote in post #2308228
Just channel hoping and came across an auction TV station. They were selling an "amazing" Vivitar digital camera. The claims they made for the camera were;

1. It was 8 mega pixels "you only get that on professional cameras usually"
2. The 3x optical and 2x digital zoom "give the sort of range you can't get on any other small camera"
3. Vivitar is the most popular camera brand in the US.

The best though was when the guy was talking through the functions.

There is automatic mode - "automatically zooms for you"
Movie mode - "you can make you own films" (what with the free 8mb SD card?)
AV mode - for when you attach the camera to you video.
TV mode - for showing pictures on your TV.

Would this be taking money by deception?

Wow did I miss out how much was it going for these lame cameras alot of us have dont make very good movies

That means the "P" mode is for "rest stops?"

joegolf68 wrote in post #2314077
That means the "P" mode is for "rest stops?"

LOL - I never thought of that.

Theres going to be a spot on the gadget show tomorrow when they go and see how much sales people really know about computers etc. - this is kinda the same thing.

The fact is, most TV presenters are just that, TV presenters, not gadget freaks, and they have to sell everything to everyone. Most salespeople are employed on a minimum wage and many have no idea what they are talking about. Its life...

However, it probably is illegal.

They're sales ppl. They'll tell you everything they think you want to hear.

Like my boss says (a sales guy): "Tell them what they want to hear, make it sound like you're promising them the world, but don't promise anything."

yeaaahh My 30D has both a TV and AV Mode plus, Its got 8mp/s so it a pro modle...Whew! and I was getting worried id bought the wrong camera!! though, im having a bit of trouble making videos with it and also, can anyone explaine how to get the 2.5" back view finder to work? it doesnt show what Im shooting till after its shot, must be a switch somewhere...lol

Claire wrote in post #2314317
They're sales ppl. They'll tell you everything they think you want to hear.

Like my boss says (a sales guy): "Tell them what they want to hear, make it sound like you're promising them the world, but don't promise anything."

Sad thing is that sales folks even at places where you think that they should know better use this. I had a sales guy at a local camera store tell me straight faced that I really wanted to get the more expensive camera because it had 8.2 m-pixels where the one I was looking at had only 8. He said that when I would print, instead of a 5x7 I would get a 4 1/2 x 6 1/2 because of the fewer pixels.

Just a little off topic....

It is sad to see how far Vivitar has fallen over the years. In my old Canon FD days, my favorite lenses were the Vivitar Series I's. They were amazing.

The other thought I had in reading this was, you don't get much better information in the present-day retailers selling most of the camera equipment on the street. I've heard things from Ritz/Best Buy employees that made my skin crawl. There is an appalling lack of knowledge among people who are supposed to know.

belmondo wrote in post #2314891
Just a little off topic....

It is sad to see how far Vivitar has fallen over the years. In my old Canon FD days, my favorite lenses were the Vivitar Series I's. They were amazing.

The other thought I had in reading this was, you don't get much better information in the present-day retailers selling most of the camera equipment on the street. I've heard things from Ritz/Best Buy employees that made my skin crawl. There is an appalling lack of knowledge among people who are supposed to know.

Vivitar Series 1 FD lenses were state of the art and if you wanted a flash with features the Vivitar 283 was the way to fly. Very amazing to see how they have regressed over the years.

The whole Ritz/Wolf/Best Buy experience is something to be missed. I swear they send their employees to misinformation school.

Woolburr wrote in post #2314918
Vivitar Series 1 FD lenses were state of the art and if you wanted a flash with features the Vivitar 283 was the way to fly. Very amazing to see how they have regressed over the years.

The whole Ritz/Wolf/Best Buy experience is something to be missed. I swear they send their employees to misinformation school.

The first indication I had that things weren't good at Vivitar was several yaers ago when I bought a small 35mm P&S. What a disaster! It went south on me after only a few rolls of really bad photos. I didn't bother to take it back to the store because It was too late to get my money back, and I didn't want another one. Later, I was looking at some Vivitar EOS lenses, and the quality was completely gone. I'd rank them right in there with Phoenix.

I'm not so sure that Vivitar and Q-Ray aren't in the same league these days. With Q-Ray possibly holding a slight edge in quality control.

I have a handy buyers guide - anything that they sell on shopping channels or bears the phrase "as seen on TV" - don't!