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First Attempt at HDR. St Mary's Church Kracow

 
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Nov 26, 2006 17:22 as a reply to  @ post 2315588 |  #16

That is wonderful ! I wonder what you can do with painting it in Corel Painter and then having a wall size printed on canvas ?

D. Craig Flory thanks for your suggestion although I do not have corel painter I am sure the effect would be very good

yip Rick looks good on this monitor ...love how the clouds seem drawen to the church

Thanks Monty I like that affect myself

Must add that the separation between the elements of the image
really gives a wonderful 3D effect.
Just out of interest, Ricky, do you have any more sky to play with above the building.
If there was it might just push the shot to another level. From bare fg through the busy people, up the building and into the great blue yonder. Just a thought.
Thanks for answering my question, must look at the software.
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Paul I am sorry to say have no sky left to play with, this is due to the converging verticals I had to sort via Photoshop, this in turn meant I lost some of the sky when I re-cropped the shot. You are right though with a bit more sky the shot would be much better. Thanks again for your kind words :)

I usually cringe when I see the words "First Attempt" and "HDR" in the same title , but this is really well done.

Thanks I had a wee laugh to myself when I read your reply. I guess I was just lucky with how the shot worked in HDR, hopefully I can improve more of my images with this technique. ;)

Ricky, I've only done HDR with static shots (and water), but not with moving objects like people. How is the blend done in photomatix w/o seeing a mix of people images from the different exposures? I'm guessing you did some extra work in photoshop after merging in photomatix to get around that.

The picture looks great. I think this is a good example of an HDR that somewhat duplicates what the human eye sees.

JT Firstly thanks for your comments I reall appreciate everyones feedback. To try and explain what I done with the shot, I had the original file that was shot as a RAW file, I opened the shot and adjusted the white balance and ensured the exposure was set to "0" opened the file and converted the shot to Jpeg, I re-opened the file in RAW and set the exposure to -1 and then again setting the exposure to +1 each time resaving the file as a jpeg. I then simply put the 3 shots into Photomatix and allowed it to do its stuff ;) I adjusted the strengths a little until I was hapy with the result. I then re-opened the file in CS2 adjusted the hue/saturation, tweeked levels, sorted the converging verticals cropped then sharpened the image. What you see is the result of this :0 Hopefully this helps explain what I done to get the effect. If not let me know and I will try again. :)

Since the people are moving I'd be inclined to think this is a single image merged to render the exposure.

Either way it looks very pleasing.

Bluedog XT hopefully my explaination answers you question thanks for your comments :)

I like it... great capture

thanks lilmiss appreciate it

I wonder about the multi-exposure and moving subject aspect too! Nice photo, though I'd prefer slightly punchier colours something which I often see in HDR.

Ballioilman thanks mate, The colours look punchy enough on my monitor although it is far from being calibrated properly so that probably explains the difference. Hoping to get calibration software with some of the guys on here soon to remedy this ;)

Nicely done...Great colors !!!

Thanks chander

[QUOTE]Ricky that looks great, the colours and final exposure are what make it for me. I have been playing around with HDR for weeks and I can't get anything close to this.

Did you extract a few images from one RAW in order to keep the people sharp?

Good work mate, however you got there....

John/[QUOTE] yes Jock thats how I done it ;) After our discussion the other night re filters I thought my bank balance could do with a rest so rather than buying more kit I had a play with HDR and so far I like what I am getting I even had a play with some black and white images from Auschwitz which are pretty also

I like it, how did you get such clear images of the people.

Thanks chaky12 appreciate you taking time to comment. If only I had my tripod with me I am sure the shot would be better but I had to settle with hand held. As I explain below by converting the one file you do not have to worry about blurred people Hope this helps?

Thanks again everyone for taking the time to comment I am away to play with more shots in Photomatix ;)
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Nov 26, 2006 17:27 |  #17

rickydiver wrote in post #2316375 (external link)
JT Firstly thanks for your comments I reall appreciate everyones feedback. To try and explain what I done with the shot, I had the original file that was shot as a RAW file.....Hopefully this helps explain what I done to get the effect. If not let know and I will try again. :)

No need to explain again. That is exactly what I suspected you did. I've yet to figure out how to do a multi exposure HDR of a moving subject (other than water, of course). I'm sure it can be done, but would probably take some creative cropping before blending images.

Another thing I've been contemplating is a night and day HDR blend. Take a picture at night, leave the tripod and camara in position until the middle of the day and then shoot it again. I wonder how that would turn out? hmm...


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Nov 26, 2006 17:32 |  #18

Ricky even though you did an excellent job on your technique, I've done quite a few myself and this method isn't considered an HDR. Basically you could have adjusted the exposure with in a single RAW file and saved as a tiff then applied the tone mapping in Photomatix.




  
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Nov 26, 2006 17:47 |  #19

Ok Bluedog XT if its not classed as High Dynamic Range what exactly is it classed as ? Cause I am confused :)
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The shot looks low in contrast, like all hdr attempts.


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Nov 26, 2006 17:50 |  #21

You will not be an HDR fan then Hellashot


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Nov 26, 2006 18:08 |  #22

Hellashot wrote in post #2316465 (external link)
The shot looks low in contrast, like all hdr attempts.

I disagree with that comment. Not all HDR images look low in contrast.


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Nov 26, 2006 18:13 |  #23

very nice!! good job!


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Nov 26, 2006 19:08 |  #24

rickydiver wrote in post #2316461 (external link)
Ok Bluedog XT if its not classed as High Dynamic Range what exactly is it classed as ? Cause I am confused :)
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Well actually its classed as Low Dynamic Range for the simple reason you can achieve the same amount of post processing in a single conversion vs the three RAW edits (from a single file) you used to achieve this. By no means am I saying your results aren't good.

This copied from the Photomatix website: heres the direct link (external link) just scroll up and down the page for more info.

"Can't I just create the exposures from one RAW file?

Not really. Your RAW file contains data captured by the sensors for only one exposure. The total dynamic range you can reconstruct from one photo converted with different exposure settings can never be more than the dynamic range captured by your camera, and this is rather limited.
When you are using only one exposure to capture the scene, your RAW file is already your HDR image.
Converting the RAW file to images with different exposure levels is a bit like slicing the dynamic range of the RAW into several parts. Combining back the parts into an HDR image will at best re-produce the dynamic range of the initial RAW file.
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Nov 27, 2006 09:49 as a reply to  @ Tsmith's post |  #25

very nice!! good job!

Thanks Zacker appreciate that ;)

Ok BluedogXT but having used the software and created it via the HDR button then I used the tone mapping button I presumed that it was an HDR file, wrongly it appears ;) Either way I like the shot :)

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Nov 27, 2006 16:14 |  #26

You're right to like the shot.


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Nov 27, 2006 19:03 |  #27

Maybe next time you should yell "FREEZE" and snap 3 shots. :evil:


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Nov 27, 2006 19:07 |  #28

Thanks Cre@te I think I will jump back on the plane to Poland and do just that, it will then make it a "real HDR" shot LOL ;)
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Nov 27, 2006 23:06 |  #29

'Real' HDR or not, it looks great and that's all that matters!


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Nov 28, 2006 01:07 |  #30

nice work!


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