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Nov 25, 2006 12:34 |  #1

Is there any alternative to spending roughly $500 to convert a camera permanently to IR?

ie, by way of a filter or something? I can only guess that if there is such a thing, it's "powers" would be limited...any experience with such an attachment, examples etc?

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Nov 25, 2006 12:49 |  #2

Sure, most people buy an IR filter (Hoya R72 and equivalent filters from other makers) to put in front of the lens. Main drawback is that you can't see to focus, you need to compose first, screw the filter back on and then expose the shot. You also get quite long exposure times which may be a problem for instance on a windy day, trees become blurry.


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Nov 25, 2006 13:06 |  #3

Yeah goes something like this, Camera on tripod, compose. focus, switch to manual focus, add R72 without changing anything, Fire exposure in "M" playing with ISO aperture and shutter speed till you get a good histogram. Works great for landscapes and the such but not so hot for people or foliage on windy days. Check out some old P&S like the olympus C-2020, has very week IR-cut filter so can be hand held with R72 on lens.


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Nov 25, 2006 13:25 |  #4

thanks!


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Nov 25, 2006 15:10 |  #5

Make sure to check the lens compatability as well. The filter produced "hot spots" with my 50mm f/1.4. There is a site around somewhere that shows lenses that don't produce such things.

Edit: Here's a link
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=18698


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Nov 25, 2006 15:23 |  #6

gread link, thanks....

also, from what i gathered in that thread....you have to use a shutter speed of around 30 seconds on a drebel to get good results? is this correct?


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Nov 25, 2006 15:44 |  #7

that's correct. I had an IR filter for my lenses, but found that it was too much hassle to work with, so I just got an Olympus C2020 for IR work. It's only 2.2 MegaPixels, but it sure is fun.


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Nov 25, 2006 15:50 |  #8

suomi7777,
Like others suggested the Hoya R72 is a good IR filter, It's the one I use for IR shots. And yes you could use up to and even longer then 30 second exposures but it depends on a lot. ex. aperture (f/stop), ISO, etc..

Here I have an IR page with some general info on IR shots with my DSLR's (external link)

Here is an example shot taken with a Hoya R72 filter its a 1 second exposure at ISO 800

IR Tree & Sky

IMAGE: http://johnbdigital.com/infrared/ir_tree_sky2.jpg
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Here is a much longer exposure 30 seconds ISO 100

Stockbridge Falls in IR
IMAGE: http://johnbdigital.com/infrared/stockbridge_ir2.jpg
Click for SpecsIMAGE LINK: http://johnbdigital.co​m/infrared/stockbridge​_ir2.htm  (external link)

Like l bo said some lenses are more likely to give hot spots, more noticed on longer exposures. However the info from dpreview.com isn't very accurate to my eyes. I have had wonderful results with a Canon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 lens with IR photos.
IR takes patience but results can be one of a kind :)

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Nov 25, 2006 17:09 |  #9

ddelallata wrote in post #2312096 (external link)
that's correct. I had an IR filter for my lenses, but found that it was too much hassle to work with, so I just got an Olympus C2020 for IR work. It's only 2.2 MegaPixels, but it sure is fun.

I do the same but I have the C2000, with this and the C2020 it makes IR so much quicker to do :)


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Nov 25, 2006 17:44 |  #10

another option is to buy a cheap old D30 or D60 and have that converted, or keep your eye out for a already converted one (there was a D30 IR converted for $250 on here a couple of months ago, i was so sad i didnt have money at the time)


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Nov 25, 2006 18:09 |  #11

yeah i think i might do that vs getting a filter...wait for a nice cheap D30 to come along or D60...

or if i can find a really good deal on an upgrade camera....possibly purchase the element and try the surgery myself....ahhh not sure....plenty of time to think about it though :)

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