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Nov 28, 2006 11:32 as a reply to  @ post 2323655 |  #16

From a technical perspective, the 5D should have the sharpest image as it is my understanding that the Anti-Aliasing filter is not as strong on that camera. However, that does not necessarily mean it will have the best IQ (although I suspect it would have that also).

The AA filter is why images look fuzzy, but without it you would get moire patterns very easily. This is also why sometimes people prefer the older cameras (such as D30 and D60) as they had weaker AA filters.


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Dec 01, 2006 15:43 as a reply to  @ Longwatcher's post |  #17

What would be the reason to use different anti-aliasing filters on different bodies? R&D should have an answer on what works best with maybe variations for 1.6x 1.3x and full frame sensors.


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Dec 01, 2006 15:49 |  #18

No two Canons have the exact same sensor, so each one needs a custom AA filter. And which camera's sharpest depends on exactly what you mean by "sharpest". Are we measuring at the sensor, at a common print size, at a common degree of enlargement?


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Dec 01, 2006 15:57 |  #19

Jon wrote in post #2339795 (external link)
No two Canons have the exact same sensor, so each one needs a custom AA filter. And which camera's sharpest depends on exactly what you mean by "sharpest". Are we measuring at the sensor, at a common print size, at a common degree of enlargement?

My original question reffered to image sharpness of a target image printed at a common size, such as 11 x 14. I understand that all the sensors are different but was replying about "weaker/stronger" differences. Does that help? And thanks!


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Dec 01, 2006 16:04 |  #20

For a common print size (assuming it's large enough, or the printing device is capable of out-resolving the image), the one with the most pixels wins. As long as the sensors out-resolve the printer it won't make much, if any, difference.


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Dec 01, 2006 16:18 as a reply to  @ Jon's post |  #21

Makes sense. What if we go one step farther, say a 20 x 30 photo lab poster print? Is it still maximum megapixels or are there quality differences between the sensors also?


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Dec 01, 2006 16:21 |  #22

Tim Sheridan wrote in post #2339907 (external link)
Is it still maximum megapixels or are there quality differences between the sensors also?

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That is - yes to both the questions.....


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Dec 01, 2006 16:32 |  #23

So........technically speaking, the XTi is capable of higher quality pictures than the 30D?


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Dec 01, 2006 17:02 |  #24

Quality is more than just straight resolution. The XTi, under optimal conditions, is able to outresolve the 30D. But it may be noisier due to smaller sensor sites, and various changes to internal processing of the image might affect the two images differently.


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Dec 01, 2006 22:10 |  #25

Jon wrote in post #2340083 (external link)
Quality is more than just straight resolution. The XTi, under optimal conditions, is able to outresolve the 30D. But it may be noisier due to smaller sensor sites, and various changes to internal processing of the image might affect the two images differently.

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Thank you for helping to explain your answer. You seem to have a handle on what I was trying to find out. Could you explain what you mean by changes to the internal processing? I was assuming ( I Know...don't assume!) that because both the XTi & 30D use DIGIC ll and feature picture styles that they would process images the same. These bodies also share the same AF & metering system don't they?


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Dec 01, 2006 22:14 |  #26

Well, simply because they have different sized sensors, there will be some differences in how the signals are handled. Also, Canon has doubtless found things that (they think) can be done better even without making a major revision to the Digic control number. So at best, they're pretty much alike, but not exactly.


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