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ScottE
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Nov 28, 2006 08:39 |  #16

I voted yes. The person who wrote the article has demonstrated that he can't take a better picture with a $5,000 camera than he can with a $150 camera. With his ability level he is better off with the $150 camera.

A photographer could get a better result with the $5,000 camera, but this person doesn't appear to be one so he should choose the camera that suits his needs.




  
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Nov 28, 2006 08:43 |  #17

Ahh... good old Ken Rockwell, always brings out the evil in people :-)

IMO The guy is a moron though... [wonder if he reads this forum...]


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Nov 28, 2006 08:50 |  #18

If Ken seriously believes in that, everything he owns must be crap. Why spend $20 on a shirt when a garbage bag does the same thing?


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Nov 28, 2006 08:56 |  #19

cosworth wrote in post #2323518 (external link)
"The 16-35mm L lens was set to 35mm, it's sharpest setting,"

This alone made me close the window and go take a piss instead.

I always open the window before I p*ss out of it.:) ;)


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Nov 28, 2006 09:10 |  #20

What a moron, I'm sorry I ever clicked on his website.

He is basicly saying that since he is a bad photogrpher, the camera makes no difference. Duh! I could take better photos with a throw away camera then a baby with a 1Ds MKII.


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Nov 28, 2006 09:16 |  #21

Everytime you click on his website, you are supporting this:

IMAGE: http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/images/sd700/me-in-car-IMG_4155-460.jpg

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Nov 28, 2006 09:26 |  #22

RikWriter wrote in post #2323497 (external link)
My opinion is that Ken Rockwell is and always has been a hack, whose opinion I wouldn't trust on any subject.

cosworth wrote in post #2323518 (external link)
"The 16-35mm L lens was set to 35mm, it's sharpest setting,"

This alone made me close the window and go take a piss instead.

rabidcow wrote in post #2323618 (external link)
Ken Rockwell is generally regarded as an idiot. He is infamous for comparing apples to oranges. He once compared a 6mp ccd to a 220 negative just to prove that film could out-resolve digital.

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #2323673 (external link)
Everytime you click on his stupid site he wins.

He's a moron. He has nothing constructive to say. That article was created to generate flames and clicks.

Don't bother and don't waste your time.

I want to quote everybody!!.. ohh! i'm excited another Rockwell bashing thread.. it's been awhile.. :lol: :lol: .. I do believe that we've all learned over and over again not to pay attention to Rockwell... at best he's a saturized photoshopper nightmare.. at worst he's..... nope. can't say it. I'd get in trouble... :evil: ..

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Nov 28, 2006 09:33 |  #23

I won't give Rockwell the pleasure of my clicking on his site.
I answered "NO". If Rockwell said it, it's most likely to be wrong.


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Nov 28, 2006 09:45 |  #24

Tom W wrote in post #2323903 (external link)
I won't give Rockwell the pleasure of my clicking on his site.
I answered "NO". If Rockwell said it, it's most likely to be wrong.

:lol: :lol: .. ditto.


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Nov 28, 2006 10:06 |  #25

Raymond Lin wrote in post #2323565 (external link)
Not only that, whoever said a more expensive camera take better photos ? That's like a more expensive pan can grill a better steak. Rubbish, its the photograher that takes the picture. He messed up the shot in the 5D, period.

Actually I buy more expensive pans because they cook the food more evenly then cheaper pans with lesser construction. They also survive my abuse more so I replace them less often. Kind of like the same philosophy I used in my camera equipment purchases.


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Nov 28, 2006 10:13 as a reply to  @ post 2323708 |  #26

Luckily I've read the thread before clicking.. Don't think I'll bother :D

The most important piece of camera equipment is always the photographer! :)


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Nov 28, 2006 10:23 |  #27

Well he has got a point, give a disposable camera to a 3 year old girl and then give her the 1ds mkII. The dispoable camera will yield better results because she won't even know how to turn the 1ds mkII on. The same with Ken.

Also, what was he on about when he said 35mm was the sharpest setting for the 16-35? Since when has the long end of a wide angle zoom been the sharpest...

To get better results from the DSLR he has to be experienced in it, and compare; bokeh, flare, distortion, AF speed, etc...


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Nov 28, 2006 10:24 |  #28

Banditloon wrote in post #2324059 (external link)
The most important piece of camera equipment is always the photographer! :)

Yes, it is, but crappy equipment is nowhere near helping you to get perfect photos, so a good photographer is (or should be) limited by his gear! Professional gear is expensive for a reason!


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Nov 28, 2006 10:34 |  #29

AWE wrote in post #2324108 (external link)
Yes, it is, but crappy equipment is nowhere near helping you to get perfect photos, so a good photographer is (or should be) limited by his gear! Professional gear is expensive for a reason!

The photographer is the person who see's the picture, not the camera or lens ;)


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Nov 28, 2006 10:39 |  #30

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #2323673 (external link)
Everytime you click on his stupid site he wins.

He's a moron. He has nothing constructive to say. That article was created to generate flames and clicks.

Don't bother and don't waste your time.

I agree, except for one point; it's always wise to know what the enemy is doing!!

We know that he's a Noinkie, so his panties are in a perpetual knot because his "beloved" is no longer king, and has lost ground to Canon.

It started to become apparent when I read his "marvelous" guide to operating the 30D, that he is attempting to put down the higher end Canon products.

This last piece of trash is simply a thinly disguised bad-mouthing of the 5D (Nikon doesn't have an FF camera). The fact that he compares two Canon products might fool some, but he's not bright enough to catch me on this one.

If you follow a few other threads (as I do) you might have noticed that there are quite a few photogs that have recently dropped their D80's for a 30D. As you know, one of our fellow participants here is called Nikonian - not anymore.


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