RAW for Dummies

KenAdams wrote in post #2351045
It's appreciated, cheers, MD!

Its a pleasure Ken

MagicallyDelicious wrote in post #2352676
Someone mentioned the other day that 7dayshop.com did 2GB cards for £17! im ordering mine this week!

I don't know what make they are but there have been a number of comments on the internet about the reliability of low-cost (aka "cheap") memory. There's a lot of people reporting that some cards don't even work in all devices.

Not had personal experience of these, but just passing on the info!

TJ

TeeJay wrote in post #2352974
I don't know what make they are but there have been a number of comments on the internet about the reliability of low-cost (aka "cheap") memory. There's a lot of people reporting that some cards don't even work in all devices.

Not had personal experience of these, but just passing on the info!

TJ

The retailer has never let me down yet so ill trust them his time!

thankyouthankyouthanky​ou

i've been shooting for quite a few years now and never took the time to really figure out what RAW is. i knew it was supposed to be totally sweeter or something, but was getting along fine with jpgs. this issue got brought up in my studio photography class the other day but nobody really explained it all that well.

i'll definitely be shooting some stuff in RAW in the very near future. :]

jaerff wrote in post #2354086
thankyouthankyouthanky​ou

i've been shooting for quite a few years now and never took the time to really figure out what RAW is. i knew it was supposed to be totally sweeter or something, but was getting along fine with jpgs. this issue got brought up in my studio photography class the other day but nobody really explained it all that well.

i'll definitely be shooting some stuff in RAW in the very near future. :]

Its quite hard to grasp at first. But then it just clicks!

Glad it helped

MagicallyDelicious wrote

Yes they do, I have bought a couple and have had no problems. Never have bought top of line CF cards, as the cheap ones have always done the job for me.
With regards to RAW, my way was only to use RAW when I thought the lighting conditions needed it, for post processing afterwards. I now have DxO Pro 4 which can do all my RAWs automatically which saves me a lot of time. If I don't like what it has done I can then manually process the ones that need it.

ghocking wrote in post #2355562
MagicallyDelicious wrote

Yes they do, I have bought a couple and have had no problems. Never have bought top of line CF cards, as the cheap ones have always done the job for me.
With regards to RAW, my way was only to use RAW when I thought the lighting conditions needed it, for post processing afterwards. I now have DxO Pro 4 which can do all my RAWs automatically which saves me a lot of time. If I don't like what it has done I can then manually process the ones that need it.

Oh cool. Fills me with more confidence

I think the article missed a very big benefit for shooting in RAW…
It’s an excellent learning and teaching tool.

As some one who is very new to photography (<2 months) and even newer to the forum (<1.5 months) it has been an invaluable training tool.

After 2 weeks of owing my camera and 2400 pictures (and reading the manual), I decided needed some help…BIG help.

Google sent me here. After about an hour of reading I new I needed to join. The info that I have gained from you guys (and gals) has been absolutely amazing, I have literally read every sticky and it took about 4 days of my life. I decided to start shooting in RAW because of what I read about detail and file size, but…

The biggest benefit I’ve gotten form shooting in RAW is that it make it very easy to SEE all the effects of exposure, WB, saturation etc, that are talked about in this forum.
If I had tried to digest all this info in a practical sense it would have taken me years to understand (shoot, change WB…Shoot, Change WB…etc), but in RAW you can go through a hole range of WB settings in seconds and see precisely how it affects your photo.

A little wordy I know, I'll work on it

misshi99 wrote in post #2365866
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The biggest benefit I’ve gotten form shooting in RAW is that it make it very easy to SEE all the effects of exposure, WB, saturation etc, that are talked about in this forum.
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Very good point, misshi99.

Did you also learn about the fact that the RAW format allows the user to return at any time to the unmodified image data and "re-develop" the "negative" using a different set of "development" conditions? (I use the terms re-develop and negative so that those more familiar with film technology can relate to these features which are unique to the digital media.)

The point I'm trying to make here is that the user can always return to an unmodified RAW image file and process it. This comes about because the user's processing of the RAW image file is recorded in a sidecar file, thus leaving the original RAW image file unchanged.

Yes, Thats and excelent way to describe it..."re-develope", I guess processing the RAW data can easly be equated to darkroom time.

The only thing that I could ask for PS or DPP is... where is the slider bar for compisition?
This would help greatly...maybe I'll e-mail Adobe

misshi99 wrote in post #2365987
Yes, Thats and excelent way to describe it..."re-develope", I guess processing the RAW data can easly be equated to darkroom time.

The only thing that I could ask for PS or DPP is... where is the slider bar for compisition?
This would help greatly...maybe I'll e-mail Adobe

You should make sure you use smilies when being sarcastic as some might rip you for their lack of humor.

justtwo things really, a big thanks to Bob Lay for "making" me try RAW. Right on the button for what I shoot. And I just lost what were, probably, my best pics to date to a cheap card 2gb card. From now on, I'm never cutting corners on memory, and nothing bigger than 512mb.

bildeb0rg wrote in post #2389246
justtwo things really, a big thanks to Bob Lay for "making" me try RAW. Right on the button for what I shoot. And I just lost what were, probably, my best pics to date to a cheap card 2gb card. From now on, I'm never cutting corners on memory, and nothing bigger than 512mb.

I have yet (knock on wood) to have any trouble with my SanDisk Ultra II cards. A 512 card will only hold about 50 RAW files from my XT and I only use them as backup. Stick with a 1GB at least, just make sure it is a good reputable card.

Let's remember that RAW corresponds to the original negative (or slide). The JPEG could be looked upon as the print from the slide.

With RAW you are working with the original and not a copy.

I have just purchased a 400D with the kit lens and a 55-200 and at the moment I have to confess that I am not as happy with the results compared to the Fuji S7000 which gave me a much better RAW image to work with.

Also I save my RAW images as DNG files so that even if formats change I will still be able to access them via Adobe software.

Big John

In2Photos wrote in post #2389298
I have yet (knock on wood) to have any trouble with my SanDisk Ultra II cards. A 512 card will only hold about 50 RAW files from my XT and I only use them as backup. Stick with a 1GB at least, just make sure it is a good reputable card.

This was Lexar, my others are SanDisk, Dane-Elelec, and Kingston. I don't mind changing out cf's every 50 shots, as it means thats the most I could lose if it crashes. Really must try some Ultas sometime...