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Dec 01, 2006 16:14 |  #1

...but does it really matter?

The reality is that perfectly exposed piccies of beautifully timed, frame-filling peak action can be very enjoyable to look at... but, let's face it, the bread and butter of shooting at the sharp end is capturing the goals and images that illustrate the underlying story of the game. You're not always going to be in the perfect spot every time and working in optimum conditions, so you have to work hard with the cards you've been dealt.

I rarely post goal pics as they don't generally make for interesting stand-alone images... but, in the spirit of breaking the habit of a lifetime, here are a few (ropey) images from Tuesday night's Colchester vs Hull match and some associated waffling. It was a fairly eventful night:

1. Hull took an early lead through Nicky Forster. A story was already developing as Colchester were undefeated at home for seven matches... so this image was (for a short time) newsworthy...

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2. Better still when Forster ran in my general direction to celebrate.

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3. Don't count your chickens though. Within a few minutes Colchester had equalised... and Hull's (ex-Colchester) manager Phil Parkinson started to get a bit grumpy with the referee's assistant. This was Parkinson's first match back at Colchester with his new club...

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4. Things went from bad to worse for Hull when Chris Iwelumo was brought down in the box...

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5. ...and converted the resulting penalty to put his side 2-1 ahead...

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6. The ever-lively Jamie Cureton scored an excellent solo goal to make it 3-1. Yep, this is a major crop at 1/400s taken with the 70-200mm from the opposite side of the penalty area, a recipe for disaster...

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7. Even better! No ball whatsoever... and this is Iwelumo's hat-trick goal... aaaargh!

In fact, it was at this moment that one of the MkII bodies I was shooting with decided to give up the ghost. In the burst of five frames I shot, this was the only one in focus. All the other frames were all over the place. The reason: shutter/mirror box failure... and off to Fixation for a repair. Still, I needed an excuse to buy a third body. Hmmmm.

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8. Back to the underlying story... Phil Parkinson was (unsurprisingly) tight-lipped when facing the media after the game...

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Dec 01, 2006 16:58 |  #2

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Oh.....Just priceless!!!! I love your narrative! Your talent shines through even in the midst of traversity. Thank you for sharing. I love "You're not always going to be in the perfect spot every time and working in optimum conditions, so you have to work hard with the cards you've been dealt". oh and I also kind of hate you ;) because I am trying to find a buyer for my soul so I can get just one 1 DIIN!
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Dec 01, 2006 17:11 as a reply to  @ Photodawg1's post |  #3

WoW, nice as always
I don't want to say that but i feel that some of your shots here are more noisy than your shots on another threads, you got so clear shots even with high ISO but i don't know what happened now, maybe because of light and exposure.


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Dec 01, 2006 17:17 |  #4

Tareq wrote in post #2340112 (external link)
WoW, nice as always
I don't want to say that but i feel that some of your shots here are more noisy than your shots on another threads, you got so clear shots even with high ISO but i don't know what happened now, maybe because of light and exposure.

I think I am rubbing off on Gavin! :D


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Dec 01, 2006 17:18 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #5

but even with that gloomy night and low light still you did a great job.
not me, my first sport shots were all crap.
I am waiting your threads and shots


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Dec 01, 2006 17:20 |  #6

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Oh.....Just priceless!!!! I love your narrative! Your talent shines through even in the midst of traversity. Thank you for sharing. I love "You're not always going to be in the perfect spot every time and working in optimum conditions, so you have to work hard with the cards you've been dealt". oh and I also kind of hate you ;) because I am trying to find a buyer for my soul so I can get just one 1 DIIN!
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Dec 01, 2006 17:29 |  #7

Tareq wrote in post #2340147 (external link)
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Dec 01, 2006 17:34 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #8

Strewth - so these are your "ropey" pics? ;)

Good work in what looks to have been some foul conditions. I have learnt a lot from previous posts of yours about the importance of telling a story and not just taking pictures of the game. Its a hard skill, however one that from this post...and despite the conditions.....you do so well!

So thank you for sharing!


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Dec 01, 2006 18:43 |  #9

Gavin,

I was up at Boston last week, the lights there put even my local club to shame. I never use 3200 but had to last week even to achieve something like 1/400s.

Any chance of posting up the original version of JC's goal so we can see how heavy the crop was ?

BTW, been meaning to ask. Are you over MK way on Tuesday night ?




  
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Dec 02, 2006 01:23 |  #10

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Gavin,

I was up at Boston last week, the lights there put even my local club to shame. I never use 3200 but had to last week even to achieve something like 1/400s.

Any chance of posting up the original version of JC's goal so we can see how heavy the crop was ?

BTW, been meaning to ask. Are you over MK way on Tuesday night ?

Hi Marc...

Here's the uncropped version:

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I was mixing at matching between ISO1600 and ISO3200 depending on which body I was using and which part of the pitch I was shooting - great fun :lol:

EDIT: Here's a slightly noise reduced and slightly less cropped version....

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Dec 02, 2006 01:27 |  #11

Tareq wrote in post #2340112 (external link)
WoW, nice as always
I don't want to say that but i feel that some of your shots here are more noisy than your shots on another threads, you got so clear shots even with high ISO but i don't know what happened now, maybe because of light and exposure.

Thanks Tareq... yep, these are noisy I agree. The 'quality' of the light and some fairly hefty cropping conspired against me :lol: Well, that's my excuse anyway!

I suppose the point that I was trying to illustrate with this post is that the importance of subject matter can far outweigh quality considerations, particularly if you're shooting editorially. What is one person's throw away image could be someone else's money-making shot. I'm sure that this will resonate with some of the shooters here that shoot for agencies when they receive that "Did you get the goal?" phone call from the picture desk ;)

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Tareq wrote in post #2340147 (external link)
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:lol: My soul has been sold... a MkIIN now resides in my camera bag.

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Tall_Paul_2000 wrote in post #2340199 (external link)
Strewth - so these are your "ropey" pics? ;)

Good work in what looks to have been some foul conditions. I have learnt a lot from previous posts of yours about the importance of telling a story and not just taking pictures of the game. Its a hard skill, however one that from this post...and despite the conditions.....you do so well!

So thank you for sharing!

Thanks Paul... it was a funny night. Sometimes you work hard but it's simply impossible to make a silk purse from a sow's ear!

However, I was in the right spot for four of the 6 goals. So, despite the (expensive) camera failure, it was a strangely enjoyable evening...

...and there was some unexpected success in the papers. Including, bizarrely, two of the goals being used in the Daily Record of all places...

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Most odd.

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Dec 02, 2006 03:51 |  #14

Great work Gavin.

Do you usually sit on the goal line?

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marcatkins wrote in post #2340452 (external link)
BTW, been meaning to ask. Are you over MK way on Tuesday night ?

...got a feeling I'll probably end up at Millwall vs Huddersfield on Tuesday...

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