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Dec 04, 2006 12:09 |  #1

Im after taking some pics of my car in a multi story car park which has those kinda orang/yellow lights...

whats the best modes and effects to use on the camera

i have the 400D




  
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Dec 04, 2006 12:31 |  #2

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Im after taking some pics of my car in a multi story car park which has those kinda orang/yellow lights...

whats the best modes and effects to use on the camera

i have the 400D

You don't say what sort of effect you're after. Are you wanting to correct the lighting white balance, or do you want to show it more like the way you see it? You'll definitely want a tripod, though having said that, you could get away with a very high ISO, which would perhaps give the gritty sort of image that would fit this scene.

Your lens choice will also drive recommendations. If it's the kit lens, you'll want to set to f/8 or f/11, use a tripod and go for shutter speeds around 1-10 seconds (with ISO at 100 or 200), depending on the lighting. This leads me to recommend manual mode and those aperture and shutter settings. Check the effect on your rear screen and you won't go far wrong. Good luck :)


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Dec 04, 2006 13:07 as a reply to  @ Madweasel's post |  #3

i basically want the pic to be how i can see it...my car is blue but its kinda turns orange under the lights and i want the pic to look like that

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Dec 04, 2006 13:33 |  #4

anyone else?




  
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Dec 04, 2006 14:41 |  #5

I would recommend shooting RAW so you can correct for WB, which will get you alot closer to true color a lot faster. A tripod will allow you to go w/ a lower ISO, but if you're turning on your parking lights to get that look, than I would shy away from excessivly long shutter speeds since lights that are so much brighter than the rest of the image can somoetimes flare or create too much glow.


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Dec 04, 2006 14:45 as a reply to  @ lingham's post |  #6

i give up

i still have a tripod and the best i get is this

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and others like this...all blurry and crap lol

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Dec 04, 2006 14:46 as a reply to  @ Philco's post |  #7

Set the WB in your camera to 'tungsten'. Or better yet, get a white piece of paper, take a picture under the lighting where you'll be shooting, then use that image to set custom white balance (very easy, just look in your manual). Shooting RAW is the best, but you'll be closer to where you want to be if you shoot RAW in addition to setting in-camera white balance (i.e. the RAW converter will open your image a bit closer to where you want it).

Remember that it probably won't look accurate if you completely and totally neutralize the color cast. You still want a bit of flavor from the lighting. So what I do with tungsten is neutralize the color cast, then add a little yellow back in while in the RAW converter -- enough to show the color of the lights, but not enough to look like a color cast.

Also, if you're shooting on a tripod, then there's no reason you need to use high ISO for a static subject. Shoot at ISO 100 and you'll get less digital noise. You might also take a laser pointer to help you focus manually as well -- just shine the laser at your subject and focus on the red dot.


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Dec 04, 2006 14:48 |  #8

i was at 100 for all of it if not 200 but all advice being took on board




  
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Dec 04, 2006 15:19 as a reply to  @ lingham's post |  #9

Hmm those pics look really soft and a little underexposed. For night pics without the use of a flash you are going to need longer exposures. And for this you want to eliminate all vibrations, caused by movement. I've had pictures ruined because of things such as slight breezes, or cars driving by on a bridge etc. Few things you might want to take into consideration;
1. Use a sturdy tripod.
2. Use a cable shutter release; if you don't have one use the timer.
3. If you really want to be picky you could also use the mirror lockup function I think your camera has one. I have the 20D and it can be accessed throught the Functions menu.
4. Check your focusing, the lack of light really makes it hard to focus. Sometimes it might be easier to maually focus.


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Dec 04, 2006 15:20 |  #10

Looking at the EXIF info your ISO was 400,1600 and 400 for those images, crank it down also set you camera to Av mode and set the aperture to 8-11, also you may have to manually focus as the camera may struggle to focus as it is quite dark (alternatively you could pop the flash up just to focus, it'll do a strobe thing, then switch the switch on the lens to MF and put the flash down) make sure you shoot in RAW and fix the white balance in PP

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Dec 04, 2006 15:40 |  #11

You're in sodium vapor lighting - it's a discontinuous spectrum type of light, which means that gettign anything resembling a good colour match will be very difficult. CWB will get you closest, but for best results get some other location.


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Dec 04, 2006 15:53 |  #12

For night shooting, you might also want to invest in a remote shutter release cable. Even with a tripod, you can jiggle the camera just by pressing the shutter.

Another way of avoiding camera jiggle from the shutter press is to put the camera in timer mode. The shutter doesn't open right away and this gives the camera time to settle down.




  
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Dec 04, 2006 16:19 |  #13

Jim_T wrote in post #2353169 (external link)
For night shooting, you might also want to invest in a remote shutter release cable. Even with a tripod, you can jiggle the camera just by pressing the shutter.

Another way of avoiding camera jiggle from the shutter press is to put the camera in timer mode. The shutter doesn't open right away and this gives the camera time to settle down.

dont forget the mirror lockup


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Dec 04, 2006 16:26 |  #14

and don't forget to shoot raw. in this case, the only way to get proper whitebalance is to use raw and then fix the whitebalance after the fact.


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Dec 04, 2006 16:37 |  #15

If you struggle with getting decent focussed shots at night; remember this:
The focal points deal with contrast; putting focal points on the middle of a smooth body panel won't do you any good.
As others have said; use a tripod; ISO 100, F8-F11 and let the camera deal with the shutter speed.
Use center spot focus on the hood of the car by pointing the center AF spot over a joint of two body panels (Hood + Front quarter panel or just on the grill(e); let it get focussed, flip the lens to MF to prevent the camera from refocusing and then take the pic.

Now is a great time to practice using custom White Balance and or shooting in RAW.


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