Just got in Car accident

rhys wrote in post #2389857
Tony Martin?

What car was he driving ?

Smiling god? prolly not..
Dumb Luck? think so!

Will he ever drive this way again? Not for a long time!

neil_r wrote in post #2394645
What car was he driving ?

Victim of police negligence.

NickSimcheck wrote in post #2391490
THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS! (does anybody have the smiley guys? Text doesn't quite cut it)

You mean these guys?

rhys wrote in post #2394827
Victim of police negligence.

Yeh right, glad you left mate.

neil_r wrote in post #2395054
Yeh right, glad you left mate.

I'd love to know what that whole debate was about...

Dante King wrote in post #2371654
I am a christian. You are lucky.

Now why the hell are you looking into legal matters because your airbag did not deply? Would it save your car? would it have saved you form injuries? Oh, yeah you walked away. People like you are driving up the costs of everything with a blame others cuz you could not handle your car. Your life was just spared by the grace of God and you want to look into a law suit. you make me want to puke. dont sue, dont speed. Yikes. I hope you are 70 years old, because if you are the youth of today we are doomed. I would really liek to tell you how I feel, but you are not worth getting banned over. Some christian you are.

Ouch...though somewhat legit. Glad your safe and sound. 80mph? Come on...necessary? Probably not, unless your driving in Germany on the autobahn.

thomascanty wrote in post #2395093
I'd love to know what that whole debate was about...

Tony Martin's remote farm was continually burgled over a period of several years.

Each time Tony Martin called the police who sometimes never turned up and sometimes turned up days later. The police never followed up on any of the information received and eventually it became quite clear that the police just were not interested in catching crooks nor in keeping Tony Martin and his property safe.

Denied protection under the law he had to do something to stop the burglaries. Expensive farm equipment was being stolen and the insurance company was getting fed up and was increasing premiums to such a point that he was being driven out of business.

In the end, having tried all peaceful means to deter and stop burglars he shot two with his shotgun. One was killed and one he wounded but allowed to escape rather than finishing him off.

Protection under the law was refused him and thus he was placed in a position where he had to be the law. The police prosecuted him for murder which was reduced to manslaughter and he got 5 years in jail for defending his own property.

This ignited a national debate on how far one could go in defending oneself and just how biassed the system is toward the criminal.

My view - the instant a criminal starts to commit a crime he surrenders all his rights under the law and all his human rights as he is attempting to deprive somebody else of their rights under the law and of their human rights.

Tony Martin was not a murderer. He set out to defend himself from burglars wielding knives and did so. It is to his credit that he did not kill the second burglar when he had the opportunity to do so.

rhys wrote in post #2395155
Tony Martin's remote farm was continually burgled over a period of several years...............

That is one view, there are others. If anyone is really interested I suggest they have a broad "Google" on the subject.

rhys wrote in post #2382350
I find driving in the US is challenging from a different perspective. The roads I normally encounter are pretty good. The problem is that American cars are so powerful. I'm used to 800cc and 1.3L engines. My wife's 3.5L v6 has me spinning the wheels quite often!

in the states, i used to have a 2.6, which i felt was fine, it had nice power, but of course, i wanted MORE POWER.

i move over here and now i have a lowly 1.2.



those big 18 wheel trucks scare me now!!!!!!!

rhys wrote in post #2395155
Tony Martin's remote farm was continually burgled over a period of several years.

Each time Tony Martin called the police who sometimes never turned up and sometimes turned up days later. The police never followed up on any of the information received and eventually it became quite clear that the police just were not interested in catching crooks nor in keeping Tony Martin and his property safe.

Denied protection under the law he had to do something to stop the burglaries. Expensive farm equipment was being stolen and the insurance company was getting fed up and was increasing premiums to such a point that he was being driven out of business.

In the end, having tried all peaceful means to deter and stop burglars he shot two with his shotgun. One was killed and one he wounded but allowed to escape rather than finishing him off.

Protection under the law was refused him and thus he was placed in a position where he had to be the law. The police prosecuted him for murder which was reduced to manslaughter and he got 5 years in jail for defending his own property.

This ignited a national debate on how far one could go in defending oneself and just how biassed the system is toward the criminal.

My view - the instant a criminal starts to commit a crime he surrenders all his rights under the law and all his human rights as he is attempting to deprive somebody else of their rights under the law and of their human rights.

Tony Martin was not a murderer. He set out to defend himself from burglars wielding knives and did so. It is to his credit that he did not kill the second burglar when he had the opportunity to do so.

if he had been in the states, tony martin never would have gone to jail.

i TOTALLY agree in that once you commit a crime, you waive your rights. we are just too soft on crime.

oh and you forgot to say that the guy who survived, tried to sue him for pain and suffering.

tlc wrote in post #2398650
if he had been in the states, tony martin never would have gone to jail.

i TOTALLY agree in that once you commit a crime, you waive your rights. we are just too soft on crime.

oh and you forgot to say that the guy who survived, tried to sue him for pain and suffering.

Yes. Fortunately the scumbag lost.

General police advice in the UK is that if you hit a burglar and floor him you don't tell the police "I hit him and floored him" because they're after easy convictions. Instead you say "There were two of them and they started fighting each other" to explain the bruises and then just say that you sat on the one that didn't get up and run away.

One of my dad's friends caught two lads vandelising his gate and had to wallop them to ensure they didn't run away. He called the police who came along, arrested them and arrested him and charged him with assault and them with vandalism. They just pleaded guilty and got maybe 2 months probation. He got really worried about being charged with assault and hired a barrister to defend himself. It cost him a ton of money but the barrister got him into a position in which he could sue the police for false arrest and malicious prosecution.

Most of the problem is that the police were overpaid by Thatcher and that their wages have stayed unrealistically high. Thus they tend to be the kind of people that want a lot of money and don't want to do very much in order to get it.

rhys wrote in post #2398991
Most of the problem is that the police were overpaid by Thatcher and that their wages have stayed unrealistically high. Thus they tend to be the kind of people that want a lot of money and don't want to do very much in order to get it.

Rhys,

You have a talent for talking complete nonsense with an authority that is totally undeserved. Well done my friend!

I would love to chat some more, unfortunately I am unable to as:-

1. This is a photography forum and politics (no mater how misguided are not a suitable topic for debate)

2. You can’t influence the hopelessly misguided.

pip pip

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neil_r wrote in post #2405014
You have a talent for talking complete nonsense with an authority that is totally undeserved.

Thank you for your kind comments. I trust that you will be feeling more sociable in the morning.