ive done alot of research for my upcoming 17-40... both are about the same price however both have their advantages. the Hoya Pro1 series can handle the lens cap but the B+W has arguably better quality and a brass setting. what would you choose?
Ryan93se Senior Member 383 posts Joined Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA More info | Dec 08, 2006 15:37 | #1 ive done alot of research for my upcoming 17-40... both are about the same price however both have their advantages. the Hoya Pro1 series can handle the lens cap but the B+W has arguably better quality and a brass setting. what would you choose? 1DsMII • 70-200L f2.8IS • 24-70L • 17-40L • 50 f1.4
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JNunn Senior Member 538 posts Joined May 2006 More info | Dec 08, 2006 16:51 | #2 Ryan93se wrote in post #2372785 ive done alot of research for my upcoming 17-40... both are about the same price however both have their advantages. the Hoya Pro1 series can handle the lens cap but the B+W has arguably better quality and a brass setting. what would you choose? B+W and Heliopan are generally considered to be the best available. They use Schott glass. I have the thin B+W on my 17-40 and haven't had a problem.
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Tsmith Formerly known as Bluedog_XT 10,429 posts Likes: 26 Joined Jul 2005 Location: South_the 601 More info | Dec 08, 2006 17:00 | #3 I've yet to see any samples depicting the IQ of one being better than the other and never have I had an issue with a filter getting stuck on a lens, finger tight is all it takes. The front filter threads on the Hoya Pro1 series does it for me.
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BillRoberts revolting peasant 3,079 posts Joined Apr 2006 Location: UK More info | Dec 08, 2006 17:25 | #4 Personally for a CPL I'd prefer Heliopan, B+W or Hoya in that order. There's probably no discernable difference in image quality though. The reasons being that both Heliopan and B+W use brass mounts rather than the Hoyas alluminium and I find both the Heliopan and B+W easier to clean (the Hoya tends to leave streaks... at least for me). The thing that just tips the balance in the Heliopans favour is the graduated marks on the outer rim which can be useful at times. But I'm really being picky there! In reality you won't got far wrong with any of that three. BiLL
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Jon Cream of the Crop 69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | Dec 08, 2006 17:36 | #5 I'm buying B+W now, although that's as much to have a common colour balance as anything else. For the 17-40 on a 350D you needn't worry about getting a thin one; they're really for use with ultrawides, which the 17-40 isn't on APS-C. Jon
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JKSeidel Member 111 posts Joined Oct 2006 Location: Miami, FL More info | Hoya had a problem a few years back where their filter cases outgassed and caused irreparable streaking and fogging of their filters. I've never heard if they've ever corrected that issue, so I avoid Hoya filters. Also, Hoya's use of aluminum mounts can cause the issue of similar metal binding, making it difficult to remove the filters. I always use Heliopan or B+W filters because of their known quality and lack of the issues mentioned above. Jeffrey
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T.D. Moderator More info | Dec 08, 2006 21:38 | #7 I've never had a Hoya, but I do have the B+W. It's really nice. Very solid. You won't go wrong with this one.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 09, 2006 14:01 | #8 For a CP, like Bill Roberts my vote is with B+W because of the brass ring construction, as brass does not bind to aluminum like aluminum ring does. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Dec 09, 2006 14:35 | #9 B+W MRC "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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Dchemist Goldmember 1,632 posts Joined Sep 2003 Location: Woodbury, Connecticut More info | I like the construction of the B&W - solid feel. POTN Book Vol4 Astronomy Image Manager and BC Member
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Dec 09, 2006 16:36 | #11 so if you are using the B&W do you take it off or use a soft cap when the camera isnt in use? thanks for everyones thoughts.... 1DsMII • 70-200L f2.8IS • 24-70L • 17-40L • 50 f1.4
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Dec 09, 2006 16:51 | #12 also.... so since im not full frame does that mean i dont need the pro 1 series and i could get this http://www.pricegrabber.com …d=728753/search=77mm+hoya 1DsMII • 70-200L f2.8IS • 24-70L • 17-40L • 50 f1.4
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Tsmith Formerly known as Bluedog_XT 10,429 posts Likes: 26 Joined Jul 2005 Location: South_the 601 More info | Dec 09, 2006 21:55 | #13 Ryan93se wrote in post #2377426 also.... so since im not full frame does that mean i dont need the pro 1 series and i could get this http://www.pricegrabber.com …d=728753/search=77mm+hoya If going with the Hoya brand I'd suggest the Hoya Pro 1 Digital 77mm Circular Polarizer from The Filter Connection
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DavidW Goldmember 3,165 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2005 Location: Bedfordshire, UK More info | Dec 10, 2006 10:07 | #14 I've got a 77mm B+W slim Kasemann circular polariser that I use with my EF 16-35mm f/2.8L. There's a picture of the setup in this post. Whilst I don't need a slim filter with my 20D, I'm interested in a full frame body at some point, so that leaves my options open. The push-on lens cap that B+W supply isn't bad, though I tend not to leave the polariser on the lens anyway.
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Jon Cream of the Crop 69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | Dec 10, 2006 17:13 | #15 Ryan93se wrote in post #2377344 so if you are using the B&W do you take it off or use a soft cap when the camera isnt in use? thanks for everyones thoughts.... Polarizers will cost you 1-1/2 to 2 stops. Unless I actually need one, it's stored in my bag, not on my lens. The only type filter I'd consider for leaving on-camera during day-to-day use is a UV. Same selection criteria will apply for those as for a polarizer. Jon
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