Yes, it is a sharp crop....
Proof positive that the one who knows his gear best can use it to get the best shot. 
Jman13 Cream of the Crop 5,567 posts Likes: 164 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, OH More info | Dec 12, 2006 14:58 | #31 Yes, it is a sharp crop.... Jordan Steele - http://www.jsteelephotos.com
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DavidEB Goldmember 3,117 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina More info | Dec 12, 2006 20:34 | #32 This may be useful to you... at last friday's hockey game, I shot some with 1600, and some with 3200. You can compare them >>> here <<< David
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Dec 12, 2006 21:04 | #33
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Jman13 Cream of the Crop 5,567 posts Likes: 164 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, OH More info | Dec 13, 2006 05:26 | #34 I haven't taken a lot of shots (well, I have, but I can't post - private event photography) at ISO 3200 with my 30D, but here's a shot I took this summer on my DRebel (original) at ISO 3200, f/1.8, 1/80s with my 50 f/1.8 on a moving boat on Lake Michigan on the 4th of July. Jordan Steele - http://www.jsteelephotos.com
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Nikolas Goldmember 1,720 posts Likes: 7 Joined May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia More info | Dec 13, 2006 05:40 | #35 These were taken at twilight on my hacked 300D at 3200 iso
and a 100% crop
Canon 5D2 20D & 300D 50mm f1.8 mk 2, 24-105 f4 IS L
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gmen Goldmember 4,345 posts Joined Aug 2004 Location: Essex More info | Dec 13, 2006 06:28 | #36 superdiver wrote in post #2386652 Great stuff guys...I guess what they say about ISo 3200 and proper exposure is right... Keep them coming! I would really like to see the ISO 3200 on the 1DMkII and sports if any one has more of those...cuz thats where I am kinda headed... Something sporting on a MKIIN.
With a teeny bit of NR in Neat Image (30% on the sliders), small levels adjustment and a wee dab of sharpening:
---- Gavin TGSPhoto Editorial Sports Photography
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Dec 13, 2006 06:32 | #37 Hellashot wrote in post #2384803 I haven't had to do noise reduction on any of my iso3200 shots, or even iso3200 EC-1 from my 5D. You wouldn't see the noise on a 800x600 web shot or an 8x10 print. I don't agree. Photos from my travels
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Dec 13, 2006 06:49 | #38 Can I guess exposure was off? "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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AdamJL Goldmember 4,365 posts Likes: 13 Joined May 2006 Location: 'Straya More info | Dec 13, 2006 07:15 | #39 Jman13 wrote in post #2393431 I haven't taken a lot of shots (well, I have, but I can't post - private event photography) at ISO 3200 with my 30D, but here's a shot I took this summer on my DRebel (original) at ISO 3200, f/1.8, 1/80s with my 50 f/1.8 on a moving boat on Lake Michigan on the 4th of July. ![]() Now that's a shot where 3200 comes in handy.. you wouldn't have been able to capture such a sharp boat in those choppy-ish waters.
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nohnst Member 142 posts Joined Mar 2006 More info | Dec 13, 2006 09:44 | #40 René Damkot wrote in post #2393615 Can I guess exposure was off? Noise at 3200 is unavoidable, even with proper exposure. It is usually apparent under dark shadows to medium grey of any image, and less apparent on lighter shades of an image. It is expected that if you shoot an image at 3200 during daylight you will see less noise as oppose to a night shot where there are a lot of shadows. While reading this thread, I took a few shots of some stuff laying on the table of my room. The room's light is turned off and the only light you see in the image is coming from my computer monitor.
Most of the images that you see in this thread are down sampled from the original. Down sampling eliminates the noisy and spotty pixels, and the image will look much smoother on screen, but since resolution is usually reduced down to screen resolution, it would not make a good photo print. Here's a sample of the same image reduced down to screen size. Looking at this image, no one would even guess that it was taken at 3200. Where is the noise?
And here's the same portion of that image at a closer look. Notice that much of the noise has been elminated and the darker shades are much smoother.
I wouldn't mind shooting at 3200 for web image purpose only. But I do think that there are some noticeable differences in image quality at high ISO settings used for photo prints. Especially for large prints around 8x10s or larger.
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Dec 13, 2006 09:59 | #41 Guess I'm looking at it from a film background: To me the above example is extremely noise free for ISO 3200 "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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