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Maintaining print ratios. pls help

 
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Dec 12, 2006 03:35 |  #1

Here is my problem, im just going to use a random example.

I have a 5x7 print that I have prepared after cropping to 5x7, doing PP on it and all that.

I then apply "Mike's Framer CS2" to it to get an awesome looking frame around it... but it no longer fits the ratio to print on a 5x7...

Now, I know the hard ways to make this work, like counting pixels, and calculating what the framer is going to add... but i wonder if there is an easy fast way to maintain proportions, or at least a formula to plan for the proportions. Is there someting in the framer to supress ratio? is there a frame that might turn an 8x10 crop into a 5x7 crop or anything like that?

I can do it manually by just adjusting canvas size, and adding a manual border (adding 1.4 to one dimension and 1.0 to the other dimension) but this makes the manual frame fatter on one dimension than the other.


Sorry for the long post, TY in advance for the help.


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Dec 12, 2006 04:02 |  #2

With the crop tool, at the top you can set the size in terms of inches, pixels, etc.


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Dec 12, 2006 05:10 |  #3

I would think that it's going to be a manual process. Pick a random crop, and add the frame. Zoom in and measure how many pixels the frame is adding to the shot. Subtract that from 5x7 and use the Marquee Tool set to the resulting particular pixel size. Now crop and add the frame to get to 5x7.

Assuming you're printing at 300 DPI, a 5x7 is 1500x2100. Let's say the frame script adds an 80-pixel wide frame (enabling Rulers can help, or the Measure tool), so that's 160 pixels for both sides. Set the Marquee Tool to crop 1340x1940, which is 1500x2100 minus 160 on both side. Crop a shot to 1340x1940, add the frame, and you'll have a perfect 5x7 @ 300 DPI. And don't worry if you're off by a few pixels.


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Dec 12, 2006 06:51 |  #4

When I wrote the script it was intended mainly for images for the web, so keeping the aspect ratio correct when including a frame wasn't a priority. Obviously the actual picture keeps its correct aspect ratio all the time.

If you want to add a frame/matte to you pictue for printing, you need to crop your picture before running the framer. Also remember to untick the resize option in the framer.


As an example, if you want the final image to be 3000 x 2000 pixels (3 x 2 ratio) and you have the matte width in framer set to 100:


Crop the picture width to the final width minus twice the matte size.
3000 - (2 x 100) = 2800


If you have "Evenly matte all sides" ticked then crop the height to the final height minus twice the matte size.
2000 - (2 x 100) = 1800

If you have "Bottom x2" ticked then crop the height to the final height minus three times the matte size.
2000 - (3 x 100) = 1700

If you have "Bottom x3" ticked then crop the height to the final height minus four times the matte size.
2000 - (4 x 100) = 1600


If you add a frame as well then you need to take twice the frame width off of both the width and height when you crop.

Sounds more complicated than it actually is, honest........


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Dec 12, 2006 07:41 |  #5

Thanks for the tips. I knew I could make it happen, I just wondered if there was an easier way. By guessing, it is always just a tad off.

The good thing is, i only have to figure it up once for each aspect ratio, then i can save all the settings for when i want to knock out a bunch of 5x7s (or whaterver size) Thanks!


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