Indoor Soccer Help

Cassy

The EXIF data on the 2 images you posted show your ISO is 200. Is that correct?

For soccer (indoor or outdoor) I have an absolute miminum shutter of 1/320. Even with that, I am pushing it as arms and legs swing very fast. Any lower than this are you are going to get a large percentage of OOF shots. The glass is also going to be effecting your focus. Did you try manual focus on a preset area. I.e. goal mouth, half way circle etc. ?

And I agree there are alot of VERY talanted soccer shooters on here. Gavin, Marc and a few others.

Darren

I am not sure whose settings you are asking about, If it's mine, here you go:

Digital Rebel (300D)
85/1.8 (for indoor)
RAW (Yes, it takes time, but I like the control)
AV (usually wide open, always close to that)
iso 1600 (Again for indoors- sometimes I can get away with 800 with good lighting)
Center spot focusing
AWB (Usually requires some tweaking in RAW)
Usually from a monopod

I seem to get a bump up in color vibrance in PP, correcting WB, Exposure, saturation, etc. in RAW improves things greatly.

I have one of the "hacks" applied to my camera, so Icould push the ISO up to H (3200). I have had mixed results with noise at that level though, so I usually do not do so. I also use Noise Ninja as part of my PP- I have found that to be a very useful plug-in.

I'm a bit of a hack butcher photographer so take this advice with a (OK, several) grain of salt, but I switched to RAW long ago and don't regret the extra step or two one bit. Yes, the overall effort can be a little higher, but developing a workflow for yourself around RAW processing doesn't have to be painful. It's second nature for me now.

I consider shooting indoor sports one of those cases where it's absolutely critical (for me) to shoot RAW to produce decent images. I shoot in manual mode, wide open, and usually 200-320 shutter speeds depending on the activity. I've been using manual WB more and more lately, and simply controlling ISO to allow for enough exposure at these settings.

Most of the RAW file handler options provide "tagging" - I take full advantage of this as a function to help with the sorting process. I simply rank the files and skip/delete the OOF or whacked out exposure images. Process the "keepers" out to TIFF, and then run a couple of my preferred actions in Photoshop to convert the TIFFs to JPG in either web-ready or printable format/sizes. Once you have a workflow down, it's not particularly cumbersome and the results are really decent.

i'm going to ask my buddy's wife to shoot our indoor game tomorrow morning, with my 70-200 F4L. thank you all for the advice, i'll setup the camera for her based on your feedback. though we play futsal - gym floor instead of turf. fortunate thing is that the rec center has large windows that let alot of sunlight onto the floor.....in certain spots of course.

Well reporting back from my day at the indoor arena. Well With the new setting I applied I have seen some improvement. Still not at the % of keeper I get with out door but I am coming to a realization with that I my not get this % quailty due to indoor circumstance I can not control. But I will not give up. I have attached the new pictures of todays games so you can see the diffrence in the images. I still would love to keep improving I guess practice makes perfect. Please keep advice coming.

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nutnhony wrote in post #2408846
Well reporting back from my day at the indoor arena. Well With the new setting I applied I have seen some improvement. Still not at the % of keeper I get with out door but I am coming to a realization with that I my not get this % quailty due to indoor circumstance I can not control. But I will not give up. I have attached the new pictures of todays games so you can see the diffrence in the images. I still would love to keep improving I guess practice makes perfect. Please keep advice coming.

stop worrying about percentages and the sort. at the end of the day, your goal is to get 1 shot you really like. if you can achieve that goal, then i'm sure there will be plenty of shots in the lot that have everything they need, except that little extra something that makes a shot truely great. for one fundraiser, i shot over a thousand photos in three hours, and out of those, i found 2 that i actually liked a lot (nothing i'de consider great though). how many "keepers" did i get, probably 200 total. how many where worth my 3 hours, about 50 of them. lets put that into consideration... 52/1039= 5%. i would only keep 5% of my shots. those are my real keepers, not the other 150 that are decent snapshots that are in focus, not blurred, etc.

Search the forum on www.sportsshooter.com -- There's some good advice there.

I understand that I do concentrate on % alot but if you are in the business to sell the end product would you want the % high? I do not charge to come to the games but my hope is the end result will help produce money. And if my % is low then so is the money.

My focus is still not at the best with indoor as it was in outdoor but today games I will try shooting in Raw and see if this helps.

My goal is to be ready for the indoor tournament in February. So any setting for indoor focus issue please keep giving. Thanks

it's worse than bb
2.8 is not going to get it done unless u go to 3200

nutnhony wrote in post #2404855
No I do not shot in raw Please explain how this would help you need to remember if I shot Let say 600 picture in a night. Won't shooting in raw take me even longer to process if I have to clean up every shot?

Never done Raw. In Jpg it takes me a good 1 1/2 to go thourgh now. And that is with mimium clean up. Then if I add having to run all my keeper through neat to clean them up Thats another 1/2 hour. So if I need to learn to do raw I will try but I will need some talking through to get it done.

u can adjust the EV in RAW but not jpg
if u are tossing that many raw is just as easy to delete