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Dec 14, 2006 20:39 |  #1

This is my first good capture of a GBH. I was fishing on the outer banks of N.C. last month and this bird was hanging around the camp ground. I didn't have my tri-pod so it's hand held. 350d, 75-300mm at 300mm,f 5.6, 1/320sec, ISO 400. I'm still working on my post work so any advise is welcome.

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Dec 15, 2006 10:02 |  #2

Nice capture, he posed well for you. Hand held is tough with the slower tele-zooms. Consider at least getting a monopod to keep great opportunities like this one nice and sharp. The branch is definitely a "hot spot", so play with the exposure/brightness/co​ntrast a bit in PS. I'd also crank up the sharpness under the detail tab on this one quite a bit. Overall, a really nice shot!


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Dec 15, 2006 10:25 as a reply to  @ Canon_Bob's post |  #3

Bob took the words right out of my mouth!

Really nice pose...but sharpness and exposure could improve it.

Actually I didn't know that the 300 would have difficulty with handholding...I hope that IS will help that. Anyone know?

I would love to see more of your photos!


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Dec 15, 2006 19:38 |  #4

Nice pose and environment in this image. The nits have already been mentionned. If not already then consider shooting in RAW format. Post processing can pull lots of detail out of RAW compared to JPEG ...has much greater latitude on exposures.


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Dec 15, 2006 20:55 |  #5

Nicely posed capture.


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Dec 15, 2006 21:12 |  #6

Margie wrote in post #2403613 (external link)
Actually I didn't know that the 300 would have difficulty with handholding...I hope that IS will help that. Anyone know?

IS always helps, but definitely isn't a substitute for a good tripod. Best trick I know to compensate for not being able to mount the camera is to crank up the ISO a bit and find a "sweet spot" where you can get some speed out of the lens, minimize shake, but not add too much noise. The "sweet spot" is going to be diffferent on every camera/lens combination. On my rig, for example, I can get reasonably good speeds on my 1DSMII with the 100-400 4.5-5.6 L mounted on it by running at ISO 400-600, but noise isn't bad at all. If I get up to ISO 800-1000 - then noise becomes an issue. I usually try to keep my shutter speed around 1/500th or better off the Monopod, or 1/1000th or better off hand held.


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Dec 16, 2006 10:15 |  #7

Canon_Bob wrote in post #2405894 (external link)
IS always helps, but definitely isn't a substitute for a good tripod. Best trick I know to compensate for not being able to mount the camera is to crank up the ISO a bit and find a "sweet spot" where you can get some speed out of the lens, minimize shake, but not add too much noise. The "sweet spot" is going to be diffferent on every camera/lens combination. On my rig, for example, I can get reasonably good speeds on my 1DSMII with the 100-400 4.5-5.6 L mounted on it by running at ISO 400-600, but noise isn't bad at all. If I get up to ISO 800-1000 - then noise becomes an issue. I usually try to keep my shutter speed around 1/500th or better off the Monopod, or 1/1000th or better off hand held.

Thank you! I will try and find out what that spot is for my combination. I have a good tripod and a monopod, but find it difficult to use with birds. I am used to stationary objects! I will have to practice and try though. Any hints that you could give me, I would really appreciate.


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Dec 16, 2006 11:26 |  #8

fireturk1 wrote in post #2401598 (external link)
This is my first good capture of a GBH. I was fishing on the outer banks of N.C. last month and this bird was hanging around the camp ground. I didn't have my tri-pod so it's hand held. 350d, 75-300mm at 300mm,f 5.6, 1/320sec, ISO 400. I'm still working on my post work so any advise is welcome.

Nice pose of a relaxed bird. I agree with the other camments feom above about sharpness.

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Actually I didn't know that the 300 would have difficulty with handholding...I hope that IS will help that. Anyone know?

Margie,

Yes a good tripod mounted shot is going to offer the absolute lowest camera shake, but tripod mounted shots will seriously reduce the number of captures you get. Big waders (shorebirds) may stand in one plece for a while, as indeed will a perched raptor, but most songbirds behave in a manic manner and don't stand still for more than a second or two.

I have both e 70-300 IS, and the 300L (which also has IS) and I find I can expose at 1/125 hand held and get very acceptable results, results that I couldn't get with my earlier 75-300 non-IS.

Hope this helps.


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Dec 16, 2006 12:16 |  #9

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Margie,

Yes a good tripod mounted shot is going to offer the absolute lowest camera shake, but tripod mounted shots will seriously reduce the number of captures you get. Big waders (shorebirds) may stand in one plece for a while, as indeed will a perched raptor, but most songbirds behave in a manic manner and don't stand still for more than a second or two.

I have both e 70-300 IS, and the 300L (which also has IS) and I find I can expose at 1/125 hand held and get very acceptable results, results that I couldn't get with my earlier 75-300 non-IS.

Hope this helps.

Thank you ! That helps alot. I was finding that to be true that songbird are too active to get them with a tri or monopod. I guess I will just have to keep practicing.


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Dec 16, 2006 13:35 as a reply to  @ Margie's post |  #10

Thanks for all the comments! The pic looked a whole lot different on my screen then what showed up on here. I have been told to calabrate my monitor and see if that fixes the colors and bright spots, Any truth to this? I have some more shots of the GBH I will post as soon as I get this straight.


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Dec 16, 2006 16:09 as a reply to  @ fireturk1's post |  #11

I went back and tried some things in PS. I'm still learning, but I think it's better. I think the branch looks a little fake, but like I said I'm still trying to figure this out. Thanks for looking.

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