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Dec 16, 2006 15:20 |  #1

I've been using a CP filter on the 24-105 L F4 and noticed that the images were soft. Seems that the filter confuses the autofocus system. Take the fileter off and it is pin sharp again.

I put a skylight filter on to protect the lens face more than anything else and again I noticed a softening of the images but this time only at the top end of the range (100 -105)

The filter are standard hoyas that I've used on my 100-400 without any problems that I've noticed.

Any thoughts ?

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Dec 16, 2006 15:25 |  #2

I don't have a CP, but purchased a B+W UV filter for my 24-105 when I got it last spring. I use the lens extensively indoors and out and have never experienced that problem. Were these inexpensive Hoya's, or the more expensive filters?


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Dec 16, 2006 15:40 |  #3

The more cost effective (aka cheaper :lol: ) versions


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Dec 16, 2006 15:43 |  #4

Picturesports wrote in post #2408523 (external link)
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There's the problem.

I use Hoya Multi-Coated UV filters and have no problems.


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Dec 16, 2006 15:45 |  #5

Ive read that if the polariser is a "Linear" type it can confuse AF systems, so they say! but ive also heard of many people without any problems.

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Dec 16, 2006 15:56 |  #6

Yeah, as has been stated I believe therein lies the problem. I know the better multicoated are painfully expensive, but that's the route you really need to take for the best images under all conditions.

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Dec 16, 2006 15:59 |  #7

The light in NZ tends towards the harsh end of the scale, so living without is not going to be an option.

Any suggestions on manufacturers other than Hoya? Interesting that the same filter doesn't create the same problem with the 100-400


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Dec 16, 2006 16:53 |  #8

Hmmm..... can't explain that one. B+W is top notch and top price. I believe Heliopan is also up there.

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Dec 16, 2006 17:04 as a reply to  @ Picturesports's post |  #9

I have noticed big time that my cheapo Ritz camera polarizer yielded horrible results. I guess you get what you pay for so I have ordered a B+W multi coated CP & they are expensive $145 compared to $35. I also ordered Tamron lens cap. Sure it might be seen as an insult to the "L" but they are convenient with a hood, Canon caps are a pain even without a hood (impossible to remove hooded) . Also to adjust CP I carefully use the tip of my finger to rotate it by the metal edge, at least on my 24-105 & 10-22 that is. Anyone concur ?
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Dec 16, 2006 17:11 |  #10

Hoya make multi-coated CPLs.
I've got a few and my lenses (including the 24-105) are pin sharp.


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Dec 16, 2006 18:29 |  #11

Picturesports wrote in post #2408523 (external link)
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Yes, cheap filters are cheap for a reason.


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Dec 16, 2006 18:31 |  #12

yes you definitly need to get a high quality multicoated filter. i have the B+W 77MM MRC CP. use it on my 24-105 all the time. works great.


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Dec 16, 2006 19:32 |  #13

I use a B&W MRC UV filter on my 24-105 and never had any issues.


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Dec 18, 2006 00:53 |  #14

i had a tiffen on my old walk around lens and it was ehh soso. I went on ebay and found a hoya slim filter for $40 i believe.


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Dec 18, 2006 05:50 |  #15

Picturesports wrote in post #2408463 (external link)
I've been using a CP filter on the 24-105 L F4 and noticed that the images were soft. Seems that the filter confuses the autofocus system. Take the fileter off and it is pin sharp again.

I put a skylight filter on to protect the lens face more than anything else and again I noticed a softening of the images but this time only at the top end of the range (100 -105)

The filter are standard hoyas that I've used on my 100-400 without any problems that I've noticed.

Any thoughts ?

Cheers Dave

Mine is OK with the SHMC pro 1 filters.

I think the standard Hoya's are not even multicoated, just single coated. Next up are the HMC and the the top end are the SHMC.

I have some notes on Hoya and B&W filter standard here:
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