WRX with Chica...

John Sims wrote in post #2419116
I don't agree. To my mind the locations make these shots. They have style, and are well executed, bringing interest to the photo.

Based on your suggestions we would have just another ricer shot.

I don't like the photos, I think the backgrounds clash with the car, and I think the car looks like a toy in several shots. I'm also pretty sure it's OK to say so on a discussion thread.

I for one, like the toy look.

ohsnap wrote in post #2420456
I don't like the photos, I think the backgrounds clash with the car, and I think the car looks like a toy in several shots. I'm also pretty sure it's OK to say so on a discussion thread.

Do you have an example of a shot you've personally taken where the shots don't clash with the background? I'm just trying to understand what you mean.

ohsnap wrote in post #2420456
I don't like the photos, I....... I'm also pretty sure it's OK to say so on a discussion thread.

Wouldn't it be boring if everyone had the same taste. If you don't like something I can't see why you can't say so........providing that you eventually agree with me.

mumbles wrote in post #2420543
Do you have an example of a shot you've personally taken where the shots don't clash with the background? I'm just trying to understand what you mean.

No, but that's hardly relevant.

Don't get me wrong, your backgrounds are interesting and well-exposed, it's just that they seem to draw attention away from the car instead of complimenting it. Take the moving train for example; nice effect, but what are you trying to say with that one? That the car doesn't move? In another, the metal doors look cool, but I'd like to see the car a little bigger in the frame. Same with the concrete structure and blue sky, it's cool, but distracting.

And the model desperately needs some fill flash or reflected light in the head-on shot.

If you and your client like the images, that's what's important. I was just throwing in my two cents, so please don't get your knickers in a twist over little ol' me.

ohsnap wrote in post #2421147
No, but that's hardly relevant.

Don't get me wrong, your backgrounds are interesting and well-exposed, it's just that they seem to draw attention away from the car instead of complimenting it. Take the moving train for example; nice effect, but what are you trying to say with that one? That the car doesn't move? In another, the metal doors look cool, but I'd like to see the car a little bigger in the frame. Same with the concrete structure and blue sky, it's cool, but distracting.

And the model desperately needs some fill flash or reflected light in the head-on shot.

If you and your client like the images, that's what's important. I was just throwing in my two cents, so please don't get your knickers in a twist over little ol' me.

Actually it's perfectly relevent. Since i don't know exactly what you mean, i have a hard time picturing what you are talking about. So without an example of your own, how do i learn from you?

Second, i could have just taken another picture of another car, bla bla, but i saw the train coming, turned up the fstop, got as long as an exposure as i could muster, and i think i got a cool effect. Show me another car shot in here with a moving train behind it. Sure, it take away from the car a little bit, but i saw an opportunity to be different and i took it. Why do you you have your knickers in a twist about it?

Lastly, the concrete structure and the black metal background... yes the black metal is large, but the numbers up top add to the industrial look. The concrete with blue sky, same idea...

If i just zoomed in on the car, who hasn't done that? How would you think it was any different than the other 1000 WRX photos here?

Please post a pic of an example, preferably one you've taken, so i can see exactly what you mean. My knickers aren't in a twist trust me.

mumbles wrote in post #2421280
Actually it's perfectly relevent. Since i don't know exactly what you mean, i have a hard time picturing what you are talking about. So without an example of your own, how do i learn from you?

Second, i could have just taken another picture of another car, bla bla, but i saw the train coming, turned up the fstop, got as long as an exposure as i could muster, and i think i got a cool effect. Show me another car shot in here with a moving train behind it. Sure, it take away from the car a little bit, but i saw an opportunity to be different and i took it. Why do you you have your knickers in a twist about it?

Lastly, the concrete structure and the black metal background... yes the black metal is large, but the numbers up top add to the industrial look. The concrete with blue sky, same idea...

If i just zoomed in on the car, who hasn't done that? How would you think it was any different than the other 1000 WRX photos here?

Please post a pic of an example, preferably one you've taken, so i can see exactly what you mean. My knickers aren't in a twist trust me.

I'm still not sure why I need an example to prove that I don't like the composition of some of your photos. I assumed you weren't just fishing for compliments when you posted them on here, but were instead looking for constructive feedback.

I'm not upset at your composition, and I'm not losing sleep over it. What is more, I respect your goal of producing a relatively different set of car photos. I simply don't like the way they came out. That's OK, right?

Since I don't have a WRX at my disposal, and I don't have the time to go out and photograph one in the setting I have in mind, you're going to have to deal with my written explanation.

ohsnap wrote in post #2421364
I'm still not sure why I need an example to prove that I don't like the composition of some of your photos. I assumed you weren't just fishing for compliments when you posted them on here, but were instead looking for constructive feedback.

I'm not upset at your composition, and I'm not losing sleep over it. What is more, I respect your goal of producing a relatively different set of car photos. I simply don't like the way they came out. That's OK, right?

Since I don't have a WRX at my disposal, and I don't have the time to go out and photograph one in the setting I have in mind, you're going to have to deal with my written explanation.

I didn't think so. It's not about proving, it's not about using a WRX, it's a car example you feel has the proper composition, as opposed to mine, which you feel don't. Usually when people provide a criticism, they show an example of something that is what they feel is correct.

You did not. And can not, so sure you can say you dislike it, but i've learned nothing from your point of view.

mumbles wrote in post #2421423
I didn't think so. It's not about proving, it's not about using a WRX, it's a car example you feel has the proper composition, as opposed to mine, which you feel don't. Usually when people provide a criticism, they show an example of something that is what they feel is correct.

OK, so if you took a picture of a car with a dead guy in the background, and I said, hey, maybe you shouldn't have the dead guy back there, you would need me to provide a non-dead guy picture in order to vindicate my criticism? No, that's absurd. It's well within the realm of normalcy to recommend an improvement without providing you the complete solution.

mumbles wrote in post #2421423
You did not. And can not, so sure you can say you dislike it, but i've learned nothing from your point of view.

Learn this: You and I don't like the same things. Not everyone will like all of anyone's photos.

ohsnap wrote in post #2421486
OK, so if you took a picture of a car with a dead guy in the background, and I said, hey, maybe you shouldn't have the dead guy back there, you would need me to provide a non-dead guy picture in order to vindicate my criticism? No, that's absurd. It's well within the realm of normalcy to recommend an improvement without providing you the complete solution.

Learn this: You and I don't like the same things. Not everyone will like all of anyone's photos.

ok great you didn't like my photos. Perfect, now i have something to look out for next time. When you say i shouldn't have had so much background, it takes away.... well show me an example where it doens't take away? What's so hard about that? I've been looking at other sites, such as, http://www.eastonchang​.com/ etc... i'm not even close to them, but i can learn from them. They have plenty of background items and many have things that according to what you'd say take a lot away from teh central subject. So what are suggesting i do different?

mumbles wrote in post #2421495
ok great you didn't like my photos. Perfect, now i have something to look out for next time.

Are you even reading my posts? I told you specifically what I didn't like about them earlier.

Yeah i read it. You say zoom in on the cars, have less background. Did you read my posts? I understand that, zoom in, ok fine, but where do you draw the line in zooming in? Give me an example.....

Show me what you feel is the proper zoom/background ratio.

You come in and make a comment, keep in mind the only negative comment, you know, since i'm fishing for compliments only and everything.... then i ask for an example of what you mean, because you say zoom in, less background, etc... well how much? Show me an example.... so the next time i go to shoot, i can take that into consideration. I ask you for a simple thing and you can't even do that. So it may seem like i'm giving you a hard time, but without an example what am i supposed to take away from your comments?

mumbles wrote in post #2421528
Yeah i read it. You say zoom in on the cars, have less background. Did you read my posts? I understand that, zoom in, ok fine, but where do you draw the line in zooming in? Give me an example.....

Show me what you feel is the proper zoom/background ratio.

It's not just the size of the backgrounds, it's also that they're very interesting. That's a compliment to you, but I don't think the backgrounds compliment the car. Combined, the size and appeal of the backgrounds seem to drown out the car.

Additionally, I'd like to see some shots of the car itself moving, as well as some that appear to be taken from a position other than standing up straight.