Color differences in DPP between raw image and camera JPEG image

David -
What Picture Style do you have set in DPP? Standard and Landscape pump up saturation, brightness and contrast, providing the "pop" you seek, but can very easily clip highlights (which may be what is happening in the shots you posted). My experience has been that it's better to use Neutral and Faithful and bring up the other parameters according to what the image and my taste require, either in DPP or better yet in my main editor.

I have it set using Standard, but even faithful (and neutral too, I think) clipped those highlights too.

Well, tried unistalling and reinstalling DPP... no difference, tried different working space colors to no avail...

Do all you images come out like your sample? If so, I was wondering if you could post a sample raw file along with the JPEG counter part so we can try to see if we can duplicate the problem on our system.

can I post a full RAW file here?

davidcrebelxt wrote in post #2471346
can I post a full RAW file here?

You can't post a raw image here (there's no way to do that) but if you have access to a web hosting site, you can post a link to your raw image hosted at that site. And barring that, you can just send me an email with the raw file attached. Let me know if that's what you want to do and I'll PM you my email address.

PacAce wrote in post #2469576
René, are you sure about that?

No. I was wrong about that. Sorry.
Got confused with the 'CMYK' setting...
Never print from DPP and had both these set in the first version of DPP I used (1.5 or so), which gave obviously wrong displaying. The CMYK setting wasn't called 'preview' then IIRC... Ever since then, I've set both to 'none'.

Okay, on with the problem.

Might be that the green is outside sRGB gamut? That might explain a difference in color.
As far as I see, the jpg is also sharpened more then the RAW. Curious as well...

davidcrebelxt wrote in post #2471346
can I post a full RAW file here?

If you want several of us to take a try at it, you can upload the RAW file to yousendit.com, send the notification email to yourself, and then post the link here.

I have a copy of David's raw and JPEG files and I'm getting the same results he's been getting so it doesn't seem to be a problem with his DPP or computer set up. It might just be the way DPP "interprets" the raw files coming from his 20D. I went as far as reloading DPP 1.6 (pre picture styles) on my Mac and still got the same results where the raw images is displayed a little brighter than the JPEG. This makes the raw image look blown out even thought it really isn't because highlight details are visible (more so than in the JPEG file).

The current version of DPP, by default, displays David's raw file using the Standard picture style. I had to use the Faithful picture style and then tweak the white point a tad and increast contrast by one notch to get the picture to look like the JPEG image.

I was under the impression that DPP, by default, always renders the raw images very close to what is rendered by the camera in the JPEG format but based on David's raw image, this doesn't seem to be true in all cases, at least not for the raw files from his 20D. I'm now curious to know if this only happens with the 20D cameras or with all cameras (although I haven't personally experienced this with my 30D or 1DmkII).

Tried a different color space? Looks like the green is clipping big time in the jpg...

René Damkot wrote in post #2478018
Tried a different color space? Looks like the green is clipping big time in the jpg...

Yup, sRGB and Adobe RGB. And yes, the green (on the sleeve) is clipping even though it shows as greener than the raw image.

PacAce wrote in post #2477867
the raw files coming from his 20D

20D or XT? He has XT listed in his signature.

rfreschner wrote in post #2478174
20D or XT? He has XT listed in his signature.

Hmm, you are absolutely right about that. I don't know where I got the impression that he had a 20D. And I thought I checked it twice, too. I think I'm confusing myself with all these threads I'm reading and responding to. After a while, they all seem to meld into one big thread.

Thanks for pointing that out to me.

PacAce wrote in post #2478189
Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Not a problem. If it was a 20D, I would have tried it out on mine.

It's an XT, sorry if there was any confusion. From what I've read the 20d and XT share the same techonology for CMOS sensor and DIGIC II processing, with almost identical results in lab tests as far as color representation, only .2 increase in pixel count on 20d... that's why I've failed to correct until now.