Hey guys quick question, when shooting ice hockey, how do you not overexpose and blow out the ice? thanks
troyer16 Senior Member 832 posts Joined Apr 2006 More info | Dec 31, 2006 19:10 | #1 Hey guys quick question, when shooting ice hockey, how do you not overexpose and blow out the ice? thanks Canon Digital Rebel XT (350D)
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Faithless Member 230 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Richmond, BC More info | Dec 31, 2006 20:45 | #2 more like how do you overexpose!??! 20d, 30d, 40d, 50d ( broken
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DavidEB Goldmember 3,117 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina More info | Dec 31, 2006 22:25 | #3 use the histogram. start with a shot in Av mode, ISO 1600, lens wide open, pointed at open, featureless ice. That's your shot for custom white balance. Look at the histogram -- you should have a single big peak in the middle of the histogram. Now look at the shutter speed the camera selected for that shot. Add 2 1/2 stops. Dial that into M mode. That's about it. Shoot some sample shots during warm-up and check the histogram - you should have a large peak near far right, but not all the way crowding the right edge. OK to have a little blown out, but not too much. David
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scottwiggins Member 232 posts Joined Nov 2005 Location: UK More info | Jan 01, 2007 04:00 | #4 Also use evaluative metering and centre focus point. If your camera picks a focus point by the ice then you'll get a blown exposure and probably a blurred picture. AV and TV won't help if you get the wrong spot wheareas M will give you some security because the settings are locked in.
IS0 800, AV mode, f2.8, 1/400th, Centre point, Eval, AWB
ISO 800, M mode, f2.8, 1/500th, Centre point, Eval, AWB It is a lot of experimentation to find settings that work for you. Scott 1D MkIII, 7D, 5D MkII, Canon 70-200L f2.8 IS, Canon 17-40 f4 L, Canon 24-105 f4L, Canon 1.4x TC II, Canon 24-70 f2.8, 100 macro, Canon 100-400 L, Canon 50 f1.4, Sigma 10-20, 580 EX flashes & ST-E2
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johns Mostly Lurking 15 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Burnham on Crouch, Essex, UK More info | Jan 01, 2007 04:24 | #5 If you have set manual exposure and aperture, what is the purpose of evaluative metering?....or have I misunderstood your listed settings? 1D MK11 N, 5D, 20D with grip, 350D, Canon 70-200 2.8 IS, Canon 135mm f2.0 ,Canon 28-135,Canon 10-22 mm, Canon 24-70mm f2.8,16-35 f2.8, Sigma 120-300 f2.8, 580 speedlight, Canon 2 x converter
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AB8ND Senior Member 745 posts Likes: 3 Joined Dec 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI More info | Jan 01, 2007 06:21 | #6 The best way is to use an incident meter, then shoot in manual with the readings you get. Generally rinks, I know some that are not even close, the lighting is even though out so a reading from say around the penalty box should be good. It would be nice to adjust , but hockey moving as fast as it does perfect exposure can sometimes be a problem. A big help is learning to recognize neutral gray tones so you can meter off them using the camera (easy to say, wish I could more often).
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DavidEB Goldmember 3,117 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina More info | Jan 01, 2007 11:26 | #7 all too complex. David
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Jan 07, 2007 01:26 | #8 thanks guys, now when you say add a couple of stops to the shutter speed does that actually mean change the shutter speed or use the dial on my camera that will overexpose/underexpose by adding or subtracting stops? THanks Canon Digital Rebel XT (350D)
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snapzz Senior Member 352 posts Joined Jan 2006 Location: North East Lincolnshire,United Kingdom More info | Jan 07, 2007 06:56 | #9 john s wrote in post #2472061 If lighting is pretty consistent I'd agree that manual settings work best (certainly for me they do) and a sample in the warm up with histogram check gets me my best results. In a poorly lit rink like my local team I have to run at asa 3200 f 2.8 and on a good day 1/320. On a bad day 1/250th. But then I am not spoilt by the lighting at Coventry Scott!! I've visited Romford rink and it is very bad. I'm there again in March for the figure skating so hope they have repaired the lighting as it was very dark in the afternoon last year.I agree with your settings but its difficult there because of the window at one end. I always try to use manual and overexpose by 2/3-1 stop. The ice will always fool your exposure meter. Graham
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DavidEB Goldmember 3,117 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina More info | Jan 07, 2007 13:37 | #10 Troyer - now when you say add a couple of stops to the shutter speed does that actually mean Sorry if I was not clear in my post. David
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Spearin Senior Member 547 posts Joined Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada More info | Jan 07, 2007 16:39 | #11 Shoot in Manual mode to get the exposure that you desire. Some (myself included) prefer the ice to be white and slightly overexpose. I don't see much point in shooting in anything besides Manual. With the sun not being a factor since you're indoors and your meter will just get tricked by the ice, boards, and players's uniforms. Sometimes though in not-so-good facilities the lighting is uneven. - Andrew, Photojournalist
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ISimonius Weather Sealed Photographer 6,508 posts Gallery: 19 photos Best ofs: 2 Likes: 49 Joined Feb 2005 Location: On a Small Blue Planet with Small Blue People With Small Blue Eyes More info | Jan 07, 2007 17:36 | #12 troyer16 wrote in post #2470827 Hey guys quick question, when shooting ice hockey, how do you not overexpose and blow out the ice? thanks take a shot and then adjust the AEB accordingly Veni, Vidi, Snappi
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