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Jan 03, 2007 19:23 |  #16

taygull wrote in post #2484352 (external link)
viewed my source code and did not see where you could grab the image.

Search for <img src="image.jpg"> Or if it's set as a table background it'd be <table width="width" height="height" background="image.jpg"​> etc.

Then as previously stated, that could then be typed in the address bar and saved.

Why are you so paranoid about images being stolen anyhow? If you keep the resolution very low, the image will not be printed as anything great so I would not worry.


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Jan 03, 2007 19:29 |  #17

tommykjensen wrote in post #2484513 (external link)
You missed the point. The faq mentions an option to disable or enable right click.

http://www.airtightint​eractive.com/simplevie​wer/xml_options.html (external link)

You are correct I did miss it! Thanks for the followup, I went in and changed all my galleries. They are reuploading now....so maybe I can at least keep the honest people away. LOL


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Jan 03, 2007 19:30 |  #18

SoaringUSAEagle wrote in post #2485370 (external link)
Search for <img src="image.jpg"> Or if it's set as a table background it'd be <table width="width" height="height" background="image.jpg"​> etc.

Then as previously stated, that could then be typed in the address bar and saved.

Why are you so paranoid about images being stolen anyhow? If you keep the resolution very low, the image will not be printed as anything great so I would not worry.

Honestly the biggest reason is I've recently done a few shoots were the record label wants to at least make it difficult for people to get the images. I want to at least do what is reasonable to protect them.


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Jan 03, 2007 19:50 |  #19

Understandable. I guess just do what they ask then lol.


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Jan 03, 2007 22:51 |  #20

SoaringUSAEagle wrote in post #2485370 (external link)
Then as previously stated, that could then be typed in the address bar and saved.

There is code that you can put onto your server that prevents such direct access to image files. However, i don't know if the smugmugs and photobuckets give you this feature.

For example, have a look at the galleries (eg Sam Abell's Photographic Life) at digitaljournalist.org - you can sniff out the URL of the image but you won't be able to access them directly. Or even hotlink them from pages outside of dj's site. This technique is effective as far as bandwidth theft is concerned but not image theft. IMHO, as long as browsers have caches, image theft cannot be stopped. :)


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Jan 04, 2007 06:51 as a reply to  @ kckong's post |  #21

disabling right click is one of the silliest things to do.

You are disabling what is often the primary means of next / back navigation, not to mention other functionality given with right click. with absolutely no gain, users can still view source, I dont even need to view source on ie 6, a little hover box comes up asking me if i want to save

IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


not to mention how this picture came around, a screenshot

Usually people with this attitude have little worth stealing anyway, but if its on the internet, it can be stolen, your only choice is to watermark it, or dont show it. If anyone is making any sort of money from your pictures, you will find out about it incredibly fast, piracy is hard to hide on the internet. so dont resort to silly tactics that will just fustrate genuine users

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Jan 04, 2007 08:25 |  #22

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Usually people with this attitude have little worth stealing anyway,

I had respect for what you had to say until you threw in this line.:rolleyes:


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Jan 04, 2007 11:15 |  #23

taygull wrote in post #2484352 (external link)
....and I have no problem with making it annoying for most users, why do they need to save my images or why do they need my source code?


BUT the price you pay is to make is annoying for most users to navigate your website.


I use Rt Click then Back to get around. Easier, faster than mousing around for the little back arrow on the toolbar. If you want to protect your images, think of a better way than by disabling my right mouse button. Whenever I come across a website like that, I usually fire off an EMail to the website owner that basically says what I think about them making it harder for me to use their site, and then I never go back.

Most people just never go back without EMailing why.

If you want to make it hard for your customers, sounds like a bad business decision.

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Jan 04, 2007 11:36 |  #24

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BUT the price you pay is to make is annoying for most users to navigate your website.

I use Rt Click then Back to get around. Easier, faster than mousing around for the little back arrow on the toolbar. If you want to protect your images, think of a better way than by disabling my right mouse button. Whenever I come across a website like that, I usually fire off an EMail to the website owner that basically says what I think about them making it harder for me to use their site, and then I never go back.

Most people just never go back without EMailing why.

If you want to make it hard for your customers, sounds like a bad business decision.

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I would disagree that this option is making it difficult for "most users". I have not had one complaint, from anyone on my site being difficult to navigate. I would say it is the opposite. There is only one reason someone would select a picture and right click on it in my gallery and that would be to copy it and use it without permission. I'm not so paranoid that I think if someone really wants an image they can get it. I would suspect that 95% of the people who view a site have little knowledge on how to save an image if the right click save as option is available.

First, right clicking or hitting the back button will do nothing for you on my site when you are viewing the galleries as they open in a new window. I'm not disabling the right click button any place other than my simpleviewer gallery.

There is one thing I have learned in business, it is that you can not try and please every single person, so within reason I'm doing what is best for me with little to no impact on the type of person who will find value in my site.


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Jan 04, 2007 14:50 |  #25

I realise I'm joining this "discussion" quite late - however, I use Simpleviewer and the "right-click -> option" doesn't appear when viewing my galleries. Are you saying that it appears when browsing the Simpleviewer flash gallery?

I do however, disable the right-click in the HTML code that Porta generates (I use Porta to generate the thumbnails and images and Simpleviewer to create the gallery/navigation) and I switch off the pop-up "save to..." icon.

I also don't see why I should make it easy for anyone to "borrow" my images, nomater what their resolution.

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Jan 05, 2007 00:26 |  #26

taygull wrote in post #2484352 (external link)
....and I have no problem with making it annoying for most users, why do they need to save my images or why do they need my source code? I viewed my source code and did not see where you could grab the image. If they want to go to the trouble of the prints screen then no problem. I do know my sister was able to right click, save a couple of images and then she used them on some Christmas cards, I'm ok with that for her but it makes me wonder who else could do the same thing.

You should have a problem with making it annoying for most users. I right click to open links in new windows all the time. When I get to a site that blocks right-clicking, I leave. Don't care any further whether your site might have been worth visiting or not. At that point it's just garbage.

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Jan 05, 2007 00:43 |  #27

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You should have a problem with making it annoying for most users. I right click to open links in new windows all the time. When I get to a site that blocks right-clicking, I leave. Don't care any further whether your site might have been worth visiting or not. At that point it's just garbage.

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So my site is just garbage because when my simpleviewer gallery opens in a new window you can't right click on an image? That is probably the stupidest thing I've read on this forum. All of the other pages have the right click option, when a gallery opens it opens in a new window so you can't select the back button anyway. Convince me of the value of the right click on my simpleviewer gallery instead of making arbitrary dumb remarks and I'll put it back.


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Jan 05, 2007 00:44 |  #28

Its a mistake to think disabling right click is going to help you at all in letting some one steal your image.
Those who steal are not average Joe.


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Jan 05, 2007 00:52 |  #29

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Its a mistake to think disabling right click is going to help you at all in letting some one steal your image.
Those who steal are not average Joe.

You are mistaken, there are many who don't have a clue to ask permission to use an image. I'm not trying to "STOP" image thieves, for images that I don't want floating around or being stolen they don't get posted. You won't see any of my "published" images on my site or anywhere else until after the publication is released. I just don't want to make it "easy".

I appreciate the stellar advice from all the experts on why or why not, on how you will cease to exist and sites are just garbage if you can't use your trusty right click as an option.

Thanks but I was not looking for a debate on how to build my site, I was simply looking for a tutorial or method to change a function of my site.

So if you guys want to debate this then that is fine, I've gotten what I needed out of this thread.


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Jan 05, 2007 00:56 |  #30

taygull wrote in post #2491666 (external link)
So my site is just garbage because when my simpleviewer gallery opens in a new window you can't right click on an image? That is probably the stupidest thing I've read on this forum. All of the other pages have the right click option, when a gallery opens it opens in a new window so you can't select the back button anyway. Convince me of the value of the right click on my simpleviewer gallery instead of making arbitrary dumb remarks and I'll put it back.

I'm not interested in convincing you. As a matter of fact I've already added your website to my hosts file so if I ever forget and try to launch it, it won't even load on my system, thus preventing the annoyance. I'm also not the guy that right clicks to go back. Heck, the backspace key does that just fine and if you're using a modern multi-button mouse, one of the side keys goes back, just as one goes forward(when possible)

I look at it this way. As much as possible, I utilize all keyboard shortcuts and all the web browser shortcuts on my system. Whenever I encounter a site that wants to dictate how I use my system, I just block that site and don't go there. Unless you're willing to pay me to look at your site, you don't have any right to try to control how I use my computer to do so.

As an aside, I hate sites that open up with flash and the stupid "enter here" link. Needless to say, I don't ever click on "enter here":evil:

So for me, you believing that what I have said is the stupidest thing you've read on this forum is quite flattering..., and totally irrelevent.

Don't take this wrong. I don't have anything against you personally per se, just websites that play foolish games.

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