Right Click Disable?

canonphotog wrote in post #2491715
I'm not interested in convincing you. As a matter of fact I've already added your website to my hosts file so if I ever forget and try to launch it, it won't even load on my system, thus preventing the annoyance.

I look at it this way. As much as possible I utilize all keyboard shortcuts and all the web browser shortcuts on my system. Whenever I encounter a site that wants to dictate how I use my system, I just block that site and don't go there. Unless you're willing to pay me to look at your site, you don't have any right to try to restrict how I use my computer to do so.

As an aside, I hate sites that open up with flash and the stupid "enter here" link. Needless to say, I don't ever click on "enter here"

Ken

so you'll never use a flash site then

go you

there is no need to be able to right click in a simple viewer gallery, and the default for many of the programs that create them is to have it off.

canonphotog wrote in post #2491715
I'm not interested in convincing you. As a matter of fact I've already added your website to my hosts file so if I ever forget and try to launch it, it won't even load on my system, thus preventing the annoyance.

I look at it this way. As much as possible I utilize all keyboard shortcuts and all the web browser shortcuts on my system. Whenever I encounter a site that wants to dictate how I use my system, I just block that site and don't go there. Unless you're willing to pay me to look at your site, you don't have any right to try to restrict how I use my computer to do so.

As an aside, I hate sites that open up with flash and the stupid "enter here" link. Needless to say, I don't ever click on "enter here"

Ken

Well I guess you are showing your ignorance, you can't read, and you might as well hide in a cage because there will be millions of sites that dictate how you will or how you will not be able to navigate them.

I'm serious I will change all the settings on my site if you can tell me one good reason to have the right click option on when you are viewing my simpleviewer gallery. Since you represent "most users" I really want to know how the right click helps. Now don't go into a rant about all the options because those options are still available on every page except when the simpleviewer gallery is launched into a new window....

It sounds to me like you are just being a grumpy old man...

coreypolis wrote in post #2491723
so you'll never use a flash site then

go you

No. I'm on a dial-up system. Waiting on flash is a PITA.

When I was where I could utilize a cable modem. Flash wasn't a problem, but "enter here" buttons still were.

canonphotog wrote in post #2491787
No. I'm on a dial-up system. Waiting on flash is a PITA.

When I was where I could utilize a cable modem. Flash wasn't a problem, but "enter here" buttons still were.

good luck with that. most sites aren't built for dial up anymore. You're in the minority and should point that out when giving advice like that.

He needs to cater to his target market, which isn't going to be on a dial up network

coreypolis wrote in post #2491802
good luck with that. most sites aren't built for dial up anymore. You're in the minority and should point that out when giving advice like that.

He needs to cater to his target market, which isn't going to be on a dial up network

I guess all my research is wrong........dial up users who want the speed and agility of right clicking in a flash gallery are "most users".

taygull wrote in post #2491756
Well I guess you are showing your ignorance, you can't read, and you might as well hide in a cage because there will be millions of sites that dictate how you will or how you will not be able to navigate them.

I'm serious I will change all the settings on my site if you can tell me one good reason to have the right click option on when you are viewing my simpleviewer gallery. Since you represent "most users" I really want to know how the right click helps. Now don't go into a rant about all the options because those options are still available on every page except when the simpleviewer gallery is launched into a new window....

It sounds to me like you are just being a grumpy old man...

Oh..., I could easily be just a grumpy old man . I've read all the posts, perhaps read more into them than you'd like. IE6 and above block pop-ups automatically unless you turn that 'feature off'. Many people run pop-up blockers. Even I do. I find that mostly it catches javascript nowadays.

I actually like the software that this forum uses which incidentally launches a posted link in a new window. I also like that it doesn't stop me from launching it myself in a new window.

For me that's the only issue. If your html, xml code simply blocked the save picture portion of the right-click, that would be fine. Unfortunately, most sites don't do that. They just block it.

Why not treat the right click as a left click in this case. You're already using the left click to launch into a new window. Make the same thing happen on right-click if you can't find another way to defeat the save picture function. That would expediently open the new window. How could I complain about that.

When the pic is open in simple viewer(which I don't know anything about) can you default the right click to close the open window?

That would probably surprise someone not expecting it, but hey, at that point they have already seen your image.

Now then, I'd expect you don't shop in every store in town, so why would you think that I would care about the millions of trivial sites out there trying to control how I view them?

The key to "controlling your viewers" and keep them happy is to not let them know they are being controlled.

Ken

taygull wrote in post #2491809
I guess all my research is wrong........dial up users who want the speed and agility of right clicking in a flash gallery are "most users".

I actually had to search the thread to see why you keep beating me with this "most users" comment. Then Corey stabs me with "target market" Hadn't even crossed my mind.

While high speed internet is readily available in most major cities, much of Texas is still rural. Were it that dsl was available where I am, I'd have it. I actually expected to at least be able to get dsl where I am. Fancy that.

I recognize that most sites written today are no longer optimized for dial-up. I wouldn't expect them to be. However, even flash driven Canon sites offer the choice between html and flash. Until Corey mentioned your "target market" I was under the impression that you just wanted to cripple right clicking on your site. And yes, I noted later that you said it's only on the one page. That makes it more frustrating in my book as it is an inconsistent behavior on the website.



Ken

pop up windows and disable right click scripts, does your site have a clock following the mouse trail?

The reason these practices are almost defunct now is that they are incredibly annoying, that isnt a "my users havent complained so it must be fine" measure, its a well researched topic, not that i like quoting neilsen, but popups made number 8 on the top 10 web design mistakes

"Opening up new browser windows is like a vacuum cleaner sales person who starts a visit by emptying an ash tray on the customer's carpet."

there are various other articles relating to why not to disable right click as well

http://www.sitepoint.c​om …/dont-disable-right-click
http://websiteowner.in​fo …s/ethics/norigh​tclick.asp
http://blogs.msdn.com …ve/2004/05/06/1​27443.aspx

Not disabling the standard items in a context menu is enough of a reason not to disable right click, you dont want people bookmarking your site? Not even mentioning the number of people using 3rd extentions, including very importantly mouse gestures, which rely on the right mouse button.

Consider upgrading your webpage to flash

And0 wrote in post #2492129
Consider upgrading your webpage to flash

That still won't make it harder to steal the photos. And it will also mean users will stay away. I know that many do not like flash based sites. Myself included.

Which is EXACTLY as I foretold, reread my post and notice where I said:

In the final analysis, it's your decision. It's a stupid one, but yours nonetheless.

Rad

Radtech1 wrote in post #2492637
Which is EXACTLY as I foretold, reread my post and notice where I said:


In the final analysis, it's your decision. It's a stupid one, but yours nonetheless.

Rad

Tell me why disabling a right click in a gallery that the only feature it stops is the ability to save an image? You can't "go back", I think it is rare someone will bookmark the individual gallery.

Have you even gone to my site and seen the impact of disabling this feature, or just because you are on the other side of the fence you think it is a stupid one. The right click has no impact on the ability to navigate when on that page.

I haven't read through the 3 pages of this topic, but I'd like to put my opinion on this as I'm a successful website designer, and know what things I like and dislike about websites.

And disabling right click is something I absolutely hate. There's no use for it, if somebody wants your image, they'll get it somehow.

Sometimes, if I really love a photo and want to save it to my computer (not for prints, not for redistribution, just simply for enjoyment or inspiration) I have to try and get around the stupid right click disabling scripts by going into the source code (not at all a hard task for someone who writes HTML every single day, but still not conveniant). And there's the printscreen method for those who are less computer-savy, or for flash websites.

There's something else I don't like. Flash is used by designers as a gimmick to make people visit their websites...but in all honesty it's just annoying and is generally accompanied with an annoying background music choice.

Anyway, my point is, if I were to put my photos in an online gallery (which I will at some point when all my clients' work is done), I would leave the images with no right click protection. What's somebody going to do? Make an 11 by 17 photo print from it? You wouldn't even have enough resolution for a decent 4 by 6, so it doesn't bother me. And as for reproducing on the internet? Also not a problem, my personal signature is large enough (but still attractive) that it prevents it from being easily removed from *most* photos.

I also sometimes try to right click on really beatiful photographs to look at the Exif info to see what type of camera, aperture, shutter speed, etc. were used, and having a non-friendly right click plagarization warning is not fun.

Basically, if somebody wants to save your photograph, they will. The absolute ONLY way to prevent someone from saving it, is to *NOT* put it on the internet if you're really that bothered. Simple as that.

*Edit* To add to my last statements, I have also been known to close a window with a digital gallery, nomatter how nice the pictures, if the right click disabling or flash has bugged me enough, so I don't think the benefit is as great as the loss in this respect.

intresting way round hiding the page sorce just hit the return button a couple of hundred times when your at the top of the html itll all disaperar somewhere down the bottom